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Questions about a zyther/banjo

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Recently, I bought this zyther/banjo from an estate sale. It is alleged to be from 1900. I do not know the maker and is in a desperate need of repair that I am willing to do. It previous owner did a bad job on it. I would love to share pictures of it before I took it apart and afterwards.

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New bridge Reily Baker banjo 1890

Really loved that old tiny bridge but it was producing a mute tone on the first string due to how wide the string slots were. Gap under the bridge, top wasn't level. Quite a few issues but it felt great. Action was perfect, string spacing perfect for me, height of bridge felt great too, even though its a fraction of the height of modern bridges. So I just bought a cheap two leg bridge, was farr too tall, so I cut the legs off to get it nearer the size I wanted. Sanded down the top with a…

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Jody Stecher left a comment for Jake Glanville
"I was not kidding. I didn't know what AD meant.   Jake please do not use the comment function in replying to something written in a conversation. Please add your comment to the thread. It's too confusing and people have to click in…"
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Jake Glanville left a comment for Jody Stecher
"Jody, you're kidding me, aren't you?  'AD' is how Cammeyer was usually referred to by those around him at the time, and stands for 'Alfred Davies' (often misspelled as 'Davis').  He was still alive…"
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"Hi Carrie! For some reason I missed your question on Music Hall artifacts.  Alas, not a sausage!  But I did get a birthday prezzie from daughter Naomi and Grandson -a book on The Great Vance (recently published and very difficult to obtain…"
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Richard William Ineson replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Although I didn't say as much, I did include Alfred Cammeyer in the following,  "Nevertheless his writings,(Sharpe's ) like every other source of banjo history are useful but have to be viewed with caution and reference to…"
2 hours ago
Trapdoor2 replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Thank you, Joel! The description in the provisional patent is quite specific for the suspensory nature of the ZB, including the configuration of the perch pole. What we get, in hindsight (and IMHO), is that the ideas which were to become the ZB…"
3 hours ago
Richard William Ineson replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Hi Joel, I've always regarded zither banjos as being American in origin, Cammeyer brought an already, clearly fully developed, zither banjo with him when he arrived in the UK in 1888. This particular banjo came into the possession of Len…"
3 hours ago
Joel Hooks replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"I'll try this link:  Here is Temlett's patent, no artwork…"
5 hours ago
Joel Hooks replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"In the March 1959 Issue of the BMG Mac McNaughton rehashes the 1869 patent as being the first with Dobson improving upon it. For what it is worth, Henry's 1867 patent does describe a "sound board" on the back-- closed…"
5 hours ago
Joel Hooks replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"People get hung up on exceptions. First, that banjo, while claimed to be from Cammeyer, is no marked and the date+ association is the fabrication of the seller.   Second, exceptions prove the rule.  There is extant examples of every…"
5 hours ago
Jody Stecher replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"I would say that banjo is a hybrid; it is neither a regular banjo or a zither-banjo. It may even be that the neck was once attached to an open back pot and the zither-banjo pot once had a standard zb neck. The tailpiece seems to be intended for soft…"
6 hours ago
Trapdoor2 replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"LOL. I think that the lesson to be learned is "never" and "always" are pretty strong words. The banjo is an assemblage of parts which may be easily exchanged and/or manufactured. Even so, I still would include the tunnel 5th as a…"
6 hours ago
Trapdoor2 replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Teed's 1862 patent drawing indeed does not show an enclosed back. He is often quoted as introducing the closed back... However, if you carefully read the text of his patent (which I just did), the text refers to a "sound board", which…"
6 hours ago
Trapdoor2 replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Alfred Davies Cammeyer"
6 hours ago
Jody Stecher replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Who or what is "AD"?"
6 hours ago
Richard William Ineson replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"As to zither banjo stringing, Cammeyer definitely sold unwound wire banjo 3rd strings, I've got a couple, still in their original packets in my collection of banjo junk. These may have been intended for use on what was known a the time as the…"
7 hours ago
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Jake Glanville replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"You are so right, Trapdoor2.  We need that 1869 Temlett patent for his 'suspended sound board' banjo!  I've been trying for years!  Glad you mentioned George Teed to whom Cammeyer was very loath to give any credit in…"
14 hours ago
Jake Glanville replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Hello again.  The statement about Temlett Snr.'s patent not being granted may be found in Vintage Banjo Makers under Dobson.  No way of knowing (yet) if this is correct. BJ aka Black Jake aka Jake. "
14 hours ago
IAN SALTER replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Does the side view of the 1862 drawings indicate an enclosed back? I recall reading that Temlett's 1869 patent application was not granted. Once again, I can't provide the specific article, but will continue searching for it."
14 hours ago
Trapdoor2 replied to Joel Hooks's discussion Temlett "Zither Banjo" inventor or first?
"Yah, guidance in engineering definitions is that consumable/variable components should never be part of the basic description. Of course, that's just me having had years of beatings from engineering managers... My Windsor #1 is currently strung…"
23 hours ago
 
 
 

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