Andrew 'blind boy' Butler
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LaBella 17
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Joel Hooks on Monday.

A Banjo Galaxy
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Andrew 'blind boy' Butler Sep 9, 2013.

Frank Bradbury
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Trapdoor2 Jun 29, 2012.

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Joel Hooks replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"I can see that, and I would play on gut too if they were A) reasonably priced and B) readily available in the sizes I use. FVE was not trying to be historically accurate.  In fact, he made those late recordings with nylon strings on a banjo he…"
Monday
Jody Stecher replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"And yet there is an Early Music contingent that rejects nylon because the sound is not Period Authentic. Aquila and others make gut strings for them. There is even a small group in China and Hong Kong that will not use anything but silk strings on…"
Sunday
Joel Hooks replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"Nylon was better than gut or silk-- anything was better.  Imagine that for the first time you could play an entire concert without replacing your first (that would brake in the middle of a piece).  That was nylon.  A big game…"
Sunday
Jody Stecher replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
" All I meant was that the recordings of FVE are in tune. If he is using fishing line that means that fishing line is not automatically out of tune.  Simple, no?  I was under the impression that Nylgut was developed for lute and viol…"
Sunday
Trapdoor2 replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"I try hard not to make global assertions. We have the technology today to differentiate between fishing line and banjo strings. Such tech was in its infancy in the 50s. Did FVE have intonation problems? I don't know. I don't know anything…"
Sunday
Jody Stecher replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"Right, so FVE's very much in-tune use of fishing line for banjo strings does not seem to square with the idea that fishing line makes out-of-tune banjo music.  "
Saturday
Trapdoor2 replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"I think it is safe to say that FVE probably used fishing line with diameters adapted to musical instrument use...mostly because he was a fairly early adopter. The use of nylon in musical instrument strings starts in the 1940s but is continuously…"
Saturday
Jody Stecher replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"Thanks for that, Joel. Very interesting!  Note that the author says that fishing line, though for musical purposes inferior to spun 610 nylon, is superior to silk and gut. I have used woven silk strings on the sanxian, a three-string Chinese…"
Saturday
Joel Hooks replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"There is a nice explanation of the difference in issue 104 of the 5 Stringer. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9pk4puzr1w5lt1/ABF_5_stringer_104.pdf?dl=0 or search "Spinneret Polymer Extrusion" and watch the videos of the process. Nylgut can…"
Friday
Trapdoor2 replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"All nylon/plastic strings are extruded/pultruded. They all pass thru a sizing die of some sort. Rectified strings are ground to better control the uniformity of diameter. AFAIK, Aquila nylgut strings are rectified. Not so sure about the…"
Friday
Joel Hooks replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"Fishing line is fine if you don't care about intonation.  It is extruded to catch fish, not to be even in thickness and weight.  The polyester strings sold as "nylgut" are also extruded.  It is very difficult to get…"
Thursday
Andrew 'blind boy' Butler replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"I will try fishing line. Any particular brand?"
Thursday
marc dalmasso replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"! ! ! ! !   i still don 't understand why you didn 't try fishing line on some of your banjos  it work very well : 50 /60 / 70 i suspect FVE  being used small gauged strings ...."
Thursday
carrie horgan replied to Andrew 'blind boy' Butler's discussion LaBella 17
"Thanks Andrew - that's good news.  I ordered two packs from Brown Dog Banjos and it came to £25.38 - ouch! I put the new strings LaBella 17 strings on today.  They were the proper length and no problems with stringing…"
Thursday
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LaBella 17

Hi everyone! I just thought I would let everyone know that Stringsdirect.UK have ordered some LaBella 17s for me. £5.99 a pack, which is cheaper than other online retailers I've found. I've suggested that they should get a few in stock. So if that's your fancy then check them out.STRINGS DIRECT La Bella nylon stringsSee More
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Just wondering if anyone has An Essex Professional or a Weaver they'd like to sell.

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