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Hello Everyone,
Here's a recording which you might also enjoy...
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Permalink Reply by Joel Hooks on
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Hi Brett, as I commented on the video, this is not "The Blackthorns", not even close. But it is a great solo and I wish I had the score for whatever it is as I like it. Thank you for sharing it!
You mentioned "the book", do you mean "The Banjo on Record?" If that is the book, yeah, it is full of errors and problems and is not to be trusted.
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Permalink Reply by Jody Stecher on
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I think that schelm is the German word for a rogue or scoundrel. Schelmen is likely to mean roguish or as Joel as said about The Banjo On Record, "not to be trusted." As far as I know, there has never been an entirely reliable reference book, including dictionaries and encyclopedias. Joel, what percentage of The Banjo On Record would you say is unreliable?
Joel Hooks said:Hi Brett, as I commented on the video, this is not "The Blackthorns", not even close. But it is a great solo and I wish I had the score for whatever it is as I like it. Thank you for sharing it!
You mentioned "the book", do you mean "The Banjo on Record?" If that is the book, yeah, it is full of errors and problems and is not to be trusted.
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Don't know. Here is the problem, in this situation I have the notation and the recording. I can listen to the recording and read the notation and find that they are completely different, but the things I cannot compare I cannot trust.
When the ruler is broke you can't trust any of the measurements.
Basically, I don't use that book at all.
Jody Stecher said:I think that schelm is the German word for a rogue or scoundrel. Schelmen is likely to mean roguish or as Joel as said about The Banjo On Record, "not to be trusted." As far as I know, there has never been an entirely reliable reference book, including dictionaries and encyclopedias. Joel, what percentage of The Banjo On Record would you say is unreliable?
Joel Hooks said:Hi Brett, as I commented on the video, this is not "The Blackthorns", not even close. But it is a great solo and I wish I had the score for whatever it is as I like it. Thank you for sharing it!
You mentioned "the book", do you mean "The Banjo on Record?" If that is the book, yeah, it is full of errors and problems and is not to be trusted.
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I see what you mean. Mostly the book gives recording dates and personnel. Comments suggesting the common identity of two different titles are incidental. I have enjoyed perusing the book. I don't know if a definitive account of banjo recordings is possible as players such as Vess Ossman would record a piece and the company would give the release an identifying number and would make a certain number of copies and when these sold out they'd bring him back to record the same piece and the company would give the new release the same number. It was something like a theatrical play. Each night it's a different performance of the same play. But in the case of these old banjo recordings the sessions would not be on successive nights but many months apart. I have found the book useful. But gosh if the dates are unreliable... I dunno...
Joel Hooks said:Don't know. Here is the problem, in this situation I have the notation and the recording. I can listen to the recording and read the notation and find that they are completely different, but the things I cannot compare I cannot trust.
When the ruler is broke you can't trust any of the measurements.
Basically, I don't use that book at all.
Jody Stecher said:I think that schelm is the German word for a rogue or scoundrel. Schelmen is likely to mean roguish or as Joel as said about The Banjo On Record, "not to be trusted." As far as I know, there has never been an entirely reliable reference book, including dictionaries and encyclopedias. Joel, what percentage of The Banjo On Record would you say is unreliable?
Joel Hooks said:Hi Brett, as I commented on the video, this is not "The Blackthorns", not even close. But it is a great solo and I wish I had the score for whatever it is as I like it. Thank you for sharing it!
You mentioned "the book", do you mean "The Banjo on Record?" If that is the book, yeah, it is full of errors and problems and is not to be trusted.
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Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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Permalink Reply by Charles Blake on
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The peace is “Tony” Written by Olly Oakley
Joel Hooks said:Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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Thank you very much for this!!! I shall add this to the pile to work on after the ABF rally this month.
Charles Blake said:The peace is “Tony” Written by Olly Oakley
Joel Hooks said:Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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Permalink Reply by Trapdoor2 on
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Pretty cool. Of course, the dots don't cover Oakley's ending, you'll have to figure that out for yourself...if you want to.
I've transcribed the dots (sans fingering) to put it on two pages for readability. Tab & mp3 too, naturally...
Please note, there's a 4 bar pickup by the piano between the INTRO and the A part, I've altered it slightly and moved it to the banjo. If I were playing this with a 2nd banjo, I'd give it to the 2nd banjo.
If anyone wants the 2nd banjo part cleaned up, etc., let me know.
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Tony-Olly Oakley.mp3, 2.8 MB
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The Woolco disc sounds like it is Olly Oakley playing as well. Does anyone have an idea what the title signifies? "Tony" seems an odd title. I've never heard of a banjo solo called "John". Why "Tony"?
Charles Blake said:The peace is “Tony” Written by Olly Oakley
Joel Hooks said:Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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I think Tony was Oakley's Sons name. Likewise he also named a piece after his wife “Winifred Mazurka”
Jody Stecher said:The Woolco disc sounds like it is Olly Oakley playing as well. Does anyone have an idea what the title signifies? "Tony" seems an odd title. I've never heard of a banjo solo called "John". Why "Tony"?
Charles Blake said:The peace is “Tony” Written by Olly Oakley
Joel Hooks said:Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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Oh! Thanks.
Charles Blake said:I think Tony was Oakley's Sons name. Likewise he also named a piece after his wife “Winifred Mazurka”
Jody Stecher said:The Woolco disc sounds like it is Olly Oakley playing as well. Does anyone have an idea what the title signifies? "Tony" seems an odd title. I've never heard of a banjo solo called "John". Why "Tony"?
Charles Blake said:The peace is “Tony” Written by Olly Oakley
Joel Hooks said:Gosh, I wish I knew what this piece actually is, I like it.
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I thought the same thing... "Tony"? That is a weird name. But shrugged and said out loud to nobody "there are lots of weird names."
I like it even more that it was his son.
George Lansing composed a nice little piece "Dicky Dance" named for his son Dicky that was published on both sides of the pond.
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