English virtuoso banjoist Sidney Edgar Turner , lifelong friend of R Tarrant Bailey ; he passed away in 1964 , 3 days after his 82th birthday . Note his Weaver with the characteristic octave dots and the ebony tailpiece .

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Comment by thereallyniceman on June 21, 2009 at 14:25
Thank you Marc.
This is a virtuoso UK banjoist that I have never heard of! I see that he has a 12" , 19fret Weaver, but can't tell if it is wood or metal hoop from the picture.
I have been looking to buy an 11" wood hoop Weaver for years but have never seen Wood Hoop Weavers of less than 12". Does anyone know if they were made? ...anyone got one?
Comment by David Wade on June 22, 2009 at 11:52
Nice picture Marc, not one that I've seen before.
18/03/82 to 21/03/64
Also known as Sam Collins.
CE published a nice folio of his solos, Goblin Gambols was always a favourtie. There is also a handwritten m/s in circulation for a piece called "Nylon Tickle".
He only recorded once, I think but will have to check.
Comment by marc dalmasso on June 23, 2009 at 13:23

S_E_Turner suite
Comment by marc dalmasso on June 23, 2009 at 13:25
sorry , i posted the 2 photos the reverse way .
Comment by David Wade on July 2, 2009 at 7:14
Well I've just round to checking the archive and Syd made quite a few recordings, although I can only recall having heard one. I count 23 sides between 1908 and 1909 - these include Morley's Darktown Dandies; A bunch of Rags; Returm or the Regiment; Camm's To the Front and one of my all time favourites Sweet Jasmine.
If you check the next issue of BMG on from the one Marc quoted (June 1964) on page 310, there is a little sad advert "FOR SALE. the late Sid Turner's 12in Weaver banjo plus spare parts and 20 MS solos. £35. Panormo guitar,small 1829 . £15. Lacote guitar. £14. Turner, 249 Gloucester Road, Cheltenham. "
Where is it now?
Comment by Jody Stecher on July 2, 2009 at 15:37
Sweet Jasmine is a favorite of mine too. It would be interesting to hear it played by Turner. I've heard at least 5 different recordings by Olly Oakley who may have written it but can't play it perfectly all the way through. Each recording session, between 1909 and 1930 produced excellent, sometimes exquisite *sections* of the piece with the awful and excellent parts always in a different place. Early sessions resulted in some great clean fast playing. The slow part at the start of his rendition at his 1930 session contains some of the most beautiful string music, banjo or otherwise I've ever heard. Then he starts the fast part and it all falls to pieces. I wonder if Turner got all the way through Sweet Jasmine without a collision between his banjo and his fingers.
Comment by Trapdoor2 on July 2, 2009 at 18:46
Well...now you've gotten my interest piqued. I have "Sweet Jasmine" but got sidetracked after tabbing out "Fernbank" and "Dashwood". Good, long weekend to do a bit of tabbing...

Hmmm...I can proudly state that I can play very much in the O.O tradition. On good days I can trot out quite good sections of "Dashwood Quickstep" and one time actually got thru two consecutive parts without a hitch. :-( God forbid I turn on the recorder...
Comment by marc dalmasso on May 2, 2010 at 18:28
Guys , i found this interesting link for those who haven't the book ; beautiful pictures ; It ' s true , in page 8 , you have a photo prooving that S E turner was an important Bj player ; pictures with Clifford Essex himself

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