Nylon strings and nails - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T15:09:09Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/nylon-strings-and-nails?feed=yes&xn_auth=nonext Friday I will meet Claud…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-19:2667446:Comment:1351102019-03-19T17:57:53.179ZFrancishttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Francis
<p>next Friday I will meet Claude Burnevitch. I will ask her for her opinion on this banjo and maybe she will agree to lend me hers for 3 minutes to compare...<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/nylon-strings-and-nails?xg_source=msg_com_forum&id=2667446%3ATopic%3A135084&page=4#2667446Comment135109"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I understand, Francis, and it's of not much consequence at this point as your…</p>
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<p>next Friday I will meet Claude Burnevitch. I will ask her for her opinion on this banjo and maybe she will agree to lend me hers for 3 minutes to compare...<br/> <br/> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/nylon-strings-and-nails?xg_source=msg_com_forum&id=2667446%3ATopic%3A135084&page=4#2667446Comment135109"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I understand, Francis, and it's of not much consequence at this point as your first banjo, but I thought to mention it just in case.</p>
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<p>When buying old banjos long distance, you never really know what work needs to be done anyway.</p>
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<p>Let us know how the banjo does as you string it up......</p>
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</blockquote> LOL, even when I am playing d…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-19:2667446:Comment:1352222019-03-19T17:44:35.217ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>LOL, even when I am playing daily/weekly, I have always been very 'easy' on strings. I don't do it intentionally...I think I am so insensitive to losses in tone that I just play on and on. I replaced a third once because I accidently discovered it was notched like a sawblade for nearly its full length. I think it had been on for 3 or 4, 4th replacements. Miz Diane walked past one time and noticed my 4th coming unwound and pulled it like a loose thread in a sweater...the whole thing came off…</p>
<p>LOL, even when I am playing daily/weekly, I have always been very 'easy' on strings. I don't do it intentionally...I think I am so insensitive to losses in tone that I just play on and on. I replaced a third once because I accidently discovered it was notched like a sawblade for nearly its full length. I think it had been on for 3 or 4, 4th replacements. Miz Diane walked past one time and noticed my 4th coming unwound and pulled it like a loose thread in a sweater...the whole thing came off in a spiral. Yup, time to change the 4th!<br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> I understand, Francis, and it…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-19:2667446:Comment:1351092019-03-19T14:59:20.790ZChris Cioffihttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/ChrisCioffi
<p>I understand, Francis, and it's of not much consequence at this point as your first banjo, but I thought to mention it just in case.</p>
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<p>When buying old banjos long distance, you never really know what work needs to be done anyway.</p>
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<p>Let us know how the banjo does as you string it up......</p>
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<p>I understand, Francis, and it's of not much consequence at this point as your first banjo, but I thought to mention it just in case.</p>
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<p>When buying old banjos long distance, you never really know what work needs to be done anyway.</p>
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<p>Let us know how the banjo does as you string it up......</p>
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<p></p> In fact, the banjo has alread…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-19:2667446:Comment:1352142019-03-19T09:16:02.907ZFrancishttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Francis
<p>In fact, the banjo has already been bought (it was a present from my wife, as she wasn't sure - and neither was I - that I would persist, she didn't put a high price on it). Nevertheless, in the absence of a point of comparison, I find it sounds pretty good and it is right up (not sure of the word) to at least the 12th fret which is more than enough for me. Maybe later....<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:…</cite></p>
<p>In fact, the banjo has already been bought (it was a present from my wife, as she wasn't sure - and neither was I - that I would persist, she didn't put a high price on it). Nevertheless, in the absence of a point of comparison, I find it sounds pretty good and it is right up (not sure of the word) to at least the 12th fret which is more than enough for me. Maybe later....<br/> <br/> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:</cite></p>
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<p>Obviously, your English is very good. I've always tried to be a "when in Rome" kind of guy.</p>
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<p>I didn't mean to de-rail Francis' topic for this thread, but since the discussion had gone toward strings and I had thoughts on it, I continued, but also in thinking to try to keep each thread on topic, made my suggestions to deal with the strings and set up subject a bit better for the future maybe.</p>
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<p>On Francis' journey...there is a nice Windsor banjo with neck adjuster on banjohangout classifieds in UK now for $350....seems it may be a better option than the banjo Francis was thinking about.</p>
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<p>The banjo Francis is thinking about....the cordier should be destined for the dust bin....it's totally worthless and not worth de-burring for nylon, though the Rickard "no knot" where you would loop tie the strings would be a cheaper and nice alternative should he buy the original banjo in the links.</p>
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<p>Francis, to get on your banjo trek, maybe it's better to spend a bit more money to have a banjo that will serve you better as well as have some equity should you decide to sell it someday.....I'm supposing since you are an accomplished musician already and intrigued with this music, getting a "better" banjo with some re-sale value right off may be a better option????</p>
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</blockquote> Waouh Jody , may i have a cop…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-19:2667446:Comment:1352582019-03-19T07:35:35.189Zmarc dalmassohttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/marcdalmasso
<p>Waouh Jody , may i have a copy of this recording ? …… Lol</p>
<p>Waouh Jody , may i have a copy of this recording ? …… Lol</p> It is by the same or similar…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-18:2667446:Comment:1351072019-03-18T18:10:30.417ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>It is by the same or similar method, Marc, that I know what musicians steal my musical arrangements. They copy errors I made in the recording studio. One British music journalist I know did a more extreme version is his record reviews. He was suspecting some European reviewers (*not* in France!) of stealing his reviews and translating them into the language of the journal for which the thieves were writing. To prove the theft he would mention a song or tune that was not actually on the…</p>
<p>It is by the same or similar method, Marc, that I know what musicians steal my musical arrangements. They copy errors I made in the recording studio. One British music journalist I know did a more extreme version is his record reviews. He was suspecting some European reviewers (*not* in France!) of stealing his reviews and translating them into the language of the journal for which the thieves were writing. To prove the theft he would mention a song or tune that was not actually on the record. He would write something like this: One of the best tracks on this LP is track 8 on side one. It features Joel Walker Sweeney and Fred Van Eps in duet playing "Jailhouse Rock". And the review thieves would copy and translate it and publish it. <br/> <br/> <cite>marc dalmasso said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/nylon-strings-and-nails?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A135257&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment135257"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>yes , i know the word pip ; in French , it 's " sillet de 5 ème corde ."</p>
<p>In fact , the names given by translation in French is very important for us , French banjo players ; as i used to explain , some words like " tone ring " , are the same non translated words in French . More , we can discover the scammers who try to sell on eBay stolen or allready sold instruments , this just because of the wrong translation</p>
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</blockquote> yes , i know the word pip ; …tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-18:2667446:Comment:1352572019-03-18T16:53:01.340Zmarc dalmassohttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/marcdalmasso
<p>yes , i know the word pip ; in French , it 's " sillet de 5 ème corde ."</p>
<p>In fact , the names given by translation in French is very important for us , French banjo players ; as i used to explain , some words like " tone ring " , are the same non translated words in French . More , we can discover the scammers who try to sell on eBay stolen or allready sold instruments , this just because of the wrong translation</p>
<p>yes , i know the word pip ; in French , it 's " sillet de 5 ème corde ."</p>
<p>In fact , the names given by translation in French is very important for us , French banjo players ; as i used to explain , some words like " tone ring " , are the same non translated words in French . More , we can discover the scammers who try to sell on eBay stolen or allready sold instruments , this just because of the wrong translation</p> Inlays made from crustaceans…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-18:2667446:Comment:1352112019-03-18T15:37:39.878ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Inlays made from crustaceans is an amusing idea. Crabs, crawdads and barnacles between the frets! The shell of mollusks (snail, abalone) has been the usual thing. Except for Winnie Winston's Boom-a-Phone banjo, that is. It had a abalone fingerboard "with distinctive ebony inlays".<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:…</cite></p>
<p>Inlays made from crustaceans is an amusing idea. Crabs, crawdads and barnacles between the frets! The shell of mollusks (snail, abalone) has been the usual thing. Except for Winnie Winston's Boom-a-Phone banjo, that is. It had a abalone fingerboard "with distinctive ebony inlays".<br/> <br/> <cite>Chris Cioffi said:</cite></p>
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<p>I love <span> "incrustations".</span></p>
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</blockquote> Thank you for the proper Fren…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-18:2667446:Comment:1351062019-03-18T13:04:03.463ZChris Cioffihttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/ChrisCioffi
<p>Thank you for the proper French words....I will make notes of this for myself.</p>
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<p>I love <span> "incrustations".</span></p>
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<p><span>Marc-Is there a name/nickname for the fifth string nut itself that has been nicknamed "pip" to differentiate it from the 4 string nut at the volute?</span></p>
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<p>Jody...."Stelling" means "too heavy, too bright...get a Gibson". Sorry, a joke to follow a joke.</p>
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<p>Joel-I've noticed consistently that the winding on…</p>
<p>Thank you for the proper French words....I will make notes of this for myself.</p>
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<p>I love <span> "incrustations".</span></p>
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<p><span>Marc-Is there a name/nickname for the fifth string nut itself that has been nicknamed "pip" to differentiate it from the 4 string nut at the volute?</span></p>
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<p>Jody...."Stelling" means "too heavy, too bright...get a Gibson". Sorry, a joke to follow a joke.</p>
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<p>Joel-I've noticed consistently that the winding on nylon fourth strings gets worn by the <span>barrettes</span> pretty quickly, and sometimes at the <span>sillet</span>. I have started "polishing" my <span>sillet slots with woven kevlar or some similar string that is about 0.020" to try to deburr the sharp edges after slotting a sillet.</span></p> Head : têteinlays : incrustat…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-03-18:2667446:Comment:1351052019-03-18T06:58:22.636Zmarc dalmassohttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/marcdalmasso
<p>Head : tête<br></br>inlays : incrustations<br></br>tuning pegs : mécaniques<br></br>neck : manche<br></br>fingerboard : touche<br></br>pot , rim : fût<br></br>tension hoop , bezel : cerclure de tension<br></br>hooks , brackets : tirants<br></br>head : peau<br></br>vellum : peau animale<br></br>tone ring : tone ring<br></br>nut : sillet<br></br>bridge : chevalet<br></br>tailpiece : cordier<br></br>strings : cordes<br></br>armrest : armrest<br></br>case : étui<br></br>heel : talon , crosse<br></br>resonator : résonateur<br></br>frets : barrettes , frettes<br></br>volute :…</p>
<p>Head : tête<br/>inlays : incrustations<br/>tuning pegs : mécaniques<br/>neck : manche<br/>fingerboard : touche<br/>pot , rim : fût<br/>tension hoop , bezel : cerclure de tension<br/>hooks , brackets : tirants<br/>head : peau<br/>vellum : peau animale<br/>tone ring : tone ring<br/>nut : sillet<br/>bridge : chevalet<br/>tailpiece : cordier<br/>strings : cordes<br/>armrest : armrest<br/>case : étui<br/>heel : talon , crosse<br/>resonator : résonateur<br/>frets : barrettes , frettes<br/>volute : volute<br/>hex nut : écrou<br/>shoes : shoes</p>