Jesusita En Chihuahua (1916)...Quirino Mendoza y Cortés. - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T19:50:32Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/jesusita-en-chihuahua-1916-quirino-mendoza-y-cortes?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A142805&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHere's what my brain sez is t…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-16:2667446:Comment:1428052020-04-16T18:01:34.813ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Here's what my brain sez is the melody...55yrs later. I wrote it out in C but F sounds better.</p>
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<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
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<p>Here's what my brain sez is the melody...55yrs later. I wrote it out in C but F sounds better.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/jesusita-en-chihuahua-1916-quirino-mendoza-y-cortes?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment142704"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I don't know this song. I will make inquires.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> I don't know this song. I wil…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-16:2667446:Comment:1427042020-04-16T14:40:55.005ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>I don't know this song. I will make inquires.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
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<p>I don't know this song. I will make inquires.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> Very cool Steve. Well done!
A…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-16:2667446:Comment:1427012020-04-16T13:37:00.237ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Very cool Steve. Well done!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">According to Wikipedia: "Jesusita" was written by…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Very cool Steve. Well done!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">According to Wikipedia: "Jesusita" was written by <a title="Quirino Mendoza y Cortés" style="background: none; text-align: left; color: #0645ad; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirino_Mendoza_y_Cort%C3%A9s">Quirino Mendoza y Cortés</a> <span style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;">while he was serving as a</span> <a title="Lt. Colonel" class="mw-redirect" style="background: none; text-align: left; color: #0645ad; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lt._Colonel">Lt. Colonel</a> <span style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;">in the</span> <a title="Mexican Revolution" style="background: none; text-align: left; color: #0645ad; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Revolution">Mexican Revolution</a> <span style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;">and directing the military band in</span> <a title="Puebla" style="background: none; text-align: left; color: #0645ad; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puebla">Puebla</a><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-quirinomendoza.com_3-0" style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; line-height: 1; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: nowrap; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"></sup><span style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;">. Its premiere was held on</span> <a title="Christmas Day" class="mw-redirect" style="background: none; text-align: left; color: #0645ad; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Day">Christmas Day</a> <span style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;">1916</span><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-paginaquesiselee_1-1" style="text-align: left; color: #222222; text-transform: none; line-height: 1; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: nowrap; orphans: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position-x: 0%; background-position-y: 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto; color: #0645ad; text-decoration: none;" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusita_en_Chihuahua#cite_note-paginaquesiselee-1"></a></sup>. It was Pancho Villa's favorite and he had it played during combat.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I've always known the <em>soldaderas</em> as 'Adelitas'.</span></p>
<p>My grandfather was part of the US contingent chasing Villa in 1916. I wonder if he heard it played?</p>
<p>Very familiar tune for me (and <span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff; color: #01010a; font-family: 'Arial'; font-size: 1em; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Cielito Lindo</span>). I was just a little kid when we lived in San Diego but being about 10mi from the Mexican border, we went to a lot of the local Mexican festivals. This stuff was always being played.</p>
<p>One Mexican tune I have never been able to find anything about, perhaps you know it, Jody. We were taught it in school (kindergarten and 1st grade...we moved to Alabama after that) and it is sort of a teaching song which lists various trades, like carpenter, farmer, etc. I can hear the tune in my head but I've lost all the words...and the title. <br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/jesusita-en-chihuahua-1916-quirino-mendoza-y-cortes?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment142801"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Steve, I've had a look and a listen. I like your arrangement. The tune go banjo-fied only in technique. The banjo part would go well in any <em>conjunto.</em> And you've kept the key of G which is where I've always heard it played. I used to hear this tune (as "Jesse Polka") at California fiddle contests in the 1970s and 80s where it would be played in the double fiddle division. It's pretty funny that Jesusita got translated as Jesse. One tradition say that the title comes from J C polka. Another says that Jesusita was the name of Pancho Villa's girlfriend. Another says the name symbolizes all the female fighters in the Mexican revolution. </p>
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</blockquote> Thanks Jody, all I have to do…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-16:2667446:Comment:1426972020-04-16T06:23:45.716ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Thanks Jody, all I have to do now is get it up to speed! Having said that, I may get my accordion out of its box and give it a blast on that....Steve.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
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<p>Thanks Jody, all I have to do now is get it up to speed! Having said that, I may get my accordion out of its box and give it a blast on that....Steve.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/jesusita-en-chihuahua-1916-quirino-mendoza-y-cortes?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment142801"><div><p>Steve, I've had a look and a listen. I like your arrangement. The tune go banjo-fied only in technique. The banjo part would go well in any <em>conjunto.</em> And you've kept the key of G which is where I've always heard it played. I used to hear this tune (as "Jesse Polka") at California fiddle contests in the 1970s and 80s where it would be played in the double fiddle division. It's pretty funny that Jesusita got translated as Jesse. One tradition say that the title comes from J C polka. Another says that Jesusita was the name of Pancho Villa's girlfriend. Another says the name symbolizes all the female fighters in the Mexican revolution. </p>
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</blockquote> Steve, I've had a look and a…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-15:2667446:Comment:1428012020-04-15T23:17:36.875ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Steve, I've had a look and a listen. I like your arrangement. The tune go banjo-fied only in technique. The banjo part would go well in any <em>conjunto.</em> And you've kept the key of G which is where I've always heard it played. I used to hear this tune (as "Jesse Polka") at California fiddle contests in the 1970s and 80s where it would be played in the double fiddle division. It's pretty funny that Jesusita got translated as Jesse. One tradition say that the title comes from J C polka.…</p>
<p>Steve, I've had a look and a listen. I like your arrangement. The tune go banjo-fied only in technique. The banjo part would go well in any <em>conjunto.</em> And you've kept the key of G which is where I've always heard it played. I used to hear this tune (as "Jesse Polka") at California fiddle contests in the 1970s and 80s where it would be played in the double fiddle division. It's pretty funny that Jesusita got translated as Jesse. One tradition say that the title comes from J C polka. Another says that Jesusita was the name of Pancho Villa's girlfriend. Another says the name symbolizes all the female fighters in the Mexican revolution. </p> YEAH! I've always loved this…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-04-15:2667446:Comment:1427982020-04-15T22:50:38.687ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>YEAH! I've always loved this tune. And as for Cielito Lindo, which has lovely words, I'll never forget being on a little local bus in rural Michoacan as a teenager. Someone started singing Cielito Lindo and *everybody* joined in. Now THAT is a living musical culture and that is where popular music and folk music are one and the same. And no one was out of tune.</p>
<p>This can still happen in your country with victory parties when the local sports club wins. Not in tune, but who cares? But…</p>
<p>YEAH! I've always loved this tune. And as for Cielito Lindo, which has lovely words, I'll never forget being on a little local bus in rural Michoacan as a teenager. Someone started singing Cielito Lindo and *everybody* joined in. Now THAT is a living musical culture and that is where popular music and folk music are one and the same. And no one was out of tune.</p>
<p>This can still happen in your country with victory parties when the local sports club wins. Not in tune, but who cares? But this has vanished from the USA and we are worse off for it.</p>
<p>Anyway, can you imagine being a songwriter and an entire country knows and loves your songs and have made them their own? WOW.</p>