Intonation Problem - Classic-Banjo2024-03-29T16:02:53Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/intonation-problem?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A185594&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood advice Joel. I generally…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-07-01:2667446:Comment:1856022021-07-01T11:03:53.999ZDavid Connellyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/DavidConnelly
<p>Good advice Joel. I generally never stretch my strings, though I am not entirely certain that I did not in this case. Thanks again.</p>
<p>Good advice Joel. I generally never stretch my strings, though I am not entirely certain that I did not in this case. Thanks again.</p> Right, get new strings. It i…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-07-01:2667446:Comment:1856772021-07-01T01:05:39.233ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Right, get new strings. It is rare, but you have a false string. Don't use any of the stretching tricks that people post on youtube or banjo hangout. Put the strings on, tune them up one full step above standard pitch and they should settle in in a day or so. </p>
<p>Right, get new strings. It is rare, but you have a false string. Don't use any of the stretching tricks that people post on youtube or banjo hangout. Put the strings on, tune them up one full step above standard pitch and they should settle in in a day or so. </p> Joel you crazy S.O.B. it work…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1856762021-06-30T22:06:56.770ZDavid Connellyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/DavidConnelly
Joel you crazy S.O.B. it worked. I still had to cant it in the opposite direction. Albeit a bit less severely. But i was easily able to intonate the bridge. Hazzah! Thanks fellas!
Joel you crazy S.O.B. it worked. I still had to cant it in the opposite direction. Albeit a bit less severely. But i was easily able to intonate the bridge. Hazzah! Thanks fellas! I'll give it a shot tonight.…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1855042021-06-30T11:27:37.472ZDavid Connellyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/DavidConnelly
<p><br/> I'll give it a shot tonight. Thanks for the suggestion Mr. hooks. I agree that scale length should not matter.</p>
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<p><br/> I'll give it a shot tonight. Thanks for the suggestion Mr. hooks. I agree that scale length should not matter.</p>
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<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/intonation-problem#2667446Comment185599"></blockquote> Take the string off, and put…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1855992021-06-30T11:14:04.282ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
Take the string off, and put it back on flipped, see what happens. I’m surprised by the scale, but that should not matter... it just does not conform to the Gibson scale that pretty much all import banjos use.
Take the string off, and put it back on flipped, see what happens. I’m surprised by the scale, but that should not matter... it just does not conform to the Gibson scale that pretty much all import banjos use. I agree. It is long. Honestly…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1857692021-06-30T01:48:41.508ZDavid Connellyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/DavidConnelly
<p>I agree. It is long. Honestly I was surprised. I hope you are right about the bum string. I think I'm going to up the gauge knowing now how long the scale length is.</p>
<p>I agree. It is long. Honestly I was surprised. I hope you are right about the bum string. I think I'm going to up the gauge knowing now how long the scale length is.</p> Wow, that's a long scale! Sou…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1855972021-06-30T01:40:03.334ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Wow, that's a long scale! Sounds like a bum string to me. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>David Connelly said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/intonation-problem?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A185594&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment185594"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Well. The washburn website lists the scale length at 27.5. But when i measure from nut to 12th it comes in 13 and 5/8ths. So that would put scale length a little less than listed. If I…</div>
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<p>Wow, that's a long scale! Sounds like a bum string to me. <br/> <br/> <cite>David Connelly said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/intonation-problem?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A185594&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment185594"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Well. The washburn website lists the scale length at 27.5. But when i measure from nut to 12th it comes in 13 and 5/8ths. So that would put scale length a little less than listed. If I intonate the 3rd string dead nuts, it falls a little under 27.5, so I'd say it's about right. Now to answer your other question. If I intonate strings 2, 3, and 4 as close as possible to true. The bridge ends up being pretty straight. But the 1st string comes in at almost a quarter tone flat at the 12th fret. Hope that makes it more clear Mr. Stetcher, and thank you for your attention.</div>
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</blockquote> Well. The washburn website li…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1855942021-06-30T01:31:58.335ZDavid Connellyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/DavidConnelly
Well. The washburn website lists the scale length at 27.5. But when i measure from nut to 12th it comes in 13 and 5/8ths. So that would put scale length a little less than listed. If I intonate the 3rd string dead nuts, it falls a little under 27.5, so I'd say it's about right. Now to answer your other question. If I intonate strings 2, 3, and 4 as close as possible to true. The bridge ends up being pretty straight. But the 1st string comes in at almost a quarter tone flat at the 12th fret.…
Well. The washburn website lists the scale length at 27.5. But when i measure from nut to 12th it comes in 13 and 5/8ths. So that would put scale length a little less than listed. If I intonate the 3rd string dead nuts, it falls a little under 27.5, so I'd say it's about right. Now to answer your other question. If I intonate strings 2, 3, and 4 as close as possible to true. The bridge ends up being pretty straight. But the 1st string comes in at almost a quarter tone flat at the 12th fret. Hope that makes it more clear Mr. Stetcher, and thank you for your attention. Without seeing the whole banj…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-06-30:2667446:Comment:1857662021-06-30T00:01:25.781ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Without seeing the whole banjo I can only guess. Is the nut cut peculiarly? What is the scale length/ the length of the vibrating string from nut to bridge when the bridge is placed so that there is an octave harmonic (overtone) at fret 12?</p>
<p>To my estimating eye it looks like the treble foot of the bridge is in the right place. About 1/3 of the way along the diameter of the pot. The other strings look like they are in a position that the12th fret would produce a pitch less than an…</p>
<p>Without seeing the whole banjo I can only guess. Is the nut cut peculiarly? What is the scale length/ the length of the vibrating string from nut to bridge when the bridge is placed so that there is an octave harmonic (overtone) at fret 12?</p>
<p>To my estimating eye it looks like the treble foot of the bridge is in the right place. About 1/3 of the way along the diameter of the pot. The other strings look like they are in a position that the12th fret would produce a pitch less than an octave above the open string. What happens when you align the bridge (straight across) so that the first overtone at fret 12 and the fingered/fretted note at fret 12 are compared? do they match? if not in what way is there a discrepancy?</p>