Good Scout and Universal Foxtrot by Vess Ossman - Classic-Banjo2024-03-29T06:20:42Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/good-scout-and-universal-foxtrot-by-vess-ossman?feed=yes&xn_auth=noEntirely influenced by readin…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-29:2667446:Comment:1928862023-01-29T16:01:33.673Znick stephenshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/nickstephens
<p>Entirely influenced by reading early BMG magazines I have lately been trying plectrum on a couple of classic banjo tunes, the results have been a revelation to me although, they slow me down too much to use a plectrum on all tunes, the ones on which I can play with a plectrum are loud and clear and sound great at outdoor gigs, triplets sound clearer and I shall from now on use a plectrum for certain tunes.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jody Stecher said:…</cite></p>
<p>Entirely influenced by reading early BMG magazines I have lately been trying plectrum on a couple of classic banjo tunes, the results have been a revelation to me although, they slow me down too much to use a plectrum on all tunes, the ones on which I can play with a plectrum are loud and clear and sound great at outdoor gigs, triplets sound clearer and I shall from now on use a plectrum for certain tunes.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/good-scout-and-universal-foxtrot-by-vess-ossman#2667446Comment192694"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Generally the difference in sound between thumb and finger has a parallel in the difference between the down and up stroke of a plectrum. The thumb makes a heavier sound. The downstroke of the plectrum is assisted by gravity and also by the weight of thumb. I think Ossman is playing on strings that are not metal. That contributes to the softer sound.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/good-scout-and-universal-foxtrot-by-vess-ossman?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A192784&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment192784"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Yah, probably more just Ossman sounding like himself. Plectra back then were generally tiny and I suspect older players tended to try for a softer, more "fingertip" attack...what they were used to.<br/> <br/> I was listening (again) for those tiny differences in attack between finger and thumb common to fingerstyle...and can't really hear any. The tremolo is criminally plectrum...in for a penny...?</div>
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</blockquote> Generally the difference in s…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-29:2667446:Comment:1926942023-01-29T13:56:24.651ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Generally the difference in sound between thumb and finger has a parallel in the difference between the down and up stroke of a plectrum. The thumb makes a heavier sound. The downstroke of the plectrum is assisted by gravity and also by the weight of thumb. I think Ossman is playing on strings that are not metal. That contributes to the softer sound.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:…</cite></p>
<p>Generally the difference in sound between thumb and finger has a parallel in the difference between the down and up stroke of a plectrum. The thumb makes a heavier sound. The downstroke of the plectrum is assisted by gravity and also by the weight of thumb. I think Ossman is playing on strings that are not metal. That contributes to the softer sound.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/good-scout-and-universal-foxtrot-by-vess-ossman?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A192784&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment192784"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Yah, probably more just Ossman sounding like himself. Plectra back then were generally tiny and I suspect older players tended to try for a softer, more "fingertip" attack...what they were used to.<br/> <br/> I was listening (again) for those tiny differences in attack between finger and thumb common to fingerstyle...and can't really hear any. The tremolo is criminally plectrum...in for a penny...?</div>
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</blockquote> Yah, probably more just Ossma…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-29:2667446:Comment:1927842023-01-29T05:14:19.918ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
Yah, probably more just Ossman sounding like himself. Plectra back then were generally tiny and I suspect older players tended to try for a softer, more "fingertip" attack...what they were used to.<br />
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I was listening (again) for those tiny differences in attack between finger and thumb common to fingerstyle...and can't really hear any. The tremolo is criminally plectrum...in for a penny...?
Yah, probably more just Ossman sounding like himself. Plectra back then were generally tiny and I suspect older players tended to try for a softer, more "fingertip" attack...what they were used to.<br />
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I was listening (again) for those tiny differences in attack between finger and thumb common to fingerstyle...and can't really hear any. The tremolo is criminally plectrum...in for a penny...? What I mean is that the sound…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-29:2667446:Comment:1928852023-01-29T05:01:27.165ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>What I mean is that the sound of the strings sounds more to me like the sound a bare fingertip makes than like the sound a plectrum makes. Maybe it doesn't matter. Vess Ossman will sound like Vess Ossman no matter what.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
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<p>What I mean is that the sound of the strings sounds more to me like the sound a bare fingertip makes than like the sound a plectrum makes. Maybe it doesn't matter. Vess Ossman will sound like Vess Ossman no matter what.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/good-scout-and-universal-foxtrot-by-vess-ossman?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A192953&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment192953"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I don't hear any fingerstyle motifs at all. No triplets, no syncopated pinches. I think both tunes are full plectrum. No doubt Ossman was a great player but perhaps wanted to jump on the "modern" plectrum trend just coming along then.<br/> <br/> Maybe driven by arthritus? He was getting along in years.</div>
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</blockquote> I don't hear any fingerstyle…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-29:2667446:Comment:1929532023-01-29T04:04:35.608ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
I don't hear any fingerstyle motifs at all. No triplets, no syncopated pinches. I think both tunes are full plectrum. No doubt Ossman was a great player but perhaps wanted to jump on the "modern" plectrum trend just coming along then.<br />
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Maybe driven by arthritus? He was getting along in years.
I don't hear any fingerstyle motifs at all. No triplets, no syncopated pinches. I think both tunes are full plectrum. No doubt Ossman was a great player but perhaps wanted to jump on the "modern" plectrum trend just coming along then.<br />
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Maybe driven by arthritus? He was getting along in years. Wow, this is a puzzle. The tr…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2023-01-28:2667446:Comment:1929352023-01-28T04:37:55.200ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Wow, this is a puzzle. The tremolo sounds like it being done with a plectrum. The rest of it sounds like fingertips. Maybe it's finger tremolo (? !! )</p>
<p>Wow, this is a puzzle. The tremolo sounds like it being done with a plectrum. The rest of it sounds like fingertips. Maybe it's finger tremolo (? !! )</p>