E. W. Mackney's Banjo Tutor - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T10:46:36Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/e-w-mackney-s-banjo-tutor?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A159084&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWashington Post, as stated, w…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-17:2667446:Comment:1641382020-12-17T14:59:04.270ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Washington Post, as stated, was added for this 1890s edition.</p>
<p>I'd Choose To Be a Daisy is found on page 54 of Buckley's. </p>
<p>Washington Post, as stated, was added for this 1890s edition.</p>
<p>I'd Choose To Be a Daisy is found on page 54 of Buckley's. </p> Yes I did. There a few tunes…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-17:2667446:Comment:1637872020-12-17T04:59:45.965ZEdward Bettegahttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/EdwardBettega
<p>Yes I did. There a few tunes that seem to be unique to Mackney - </p>
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<tr><td height="21">Darkies' Christmas Day</td>
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<tr><td height="21">Di, Di, Di!</td>
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<tr><td height="21">Peter Gray</td>
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<tr><td height="21">Sally Come Up</td>
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<tr><td height="21">The Washington Post March</td>
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<p>Yes I did. There a few tunes that seem to be unique to Mackney - </p>
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<colgroup><col width="601"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="21" width="601">Choose To Be A Daisy</td>
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<tr><td height="21">The Washington Post March</td>
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</table> I think you have your Buckley…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-16:2667446:Comment:1635662020-12-16T14:34:12.034ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>I think you have your Buckley's mixed up. Mackney's is pulled right out of "Buckley's New Banjo Method" of 1860.</p>
<p>The other Mackney is from the 1890s.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Edward Bettega said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/e-w-mackney-s-banjo-tutor?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment163036"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For…</p>
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<p>I think you have your Buckley's mixed up. Mackney's is pulled right out of "Buckley's New Banjo Method" of 1860.</p>
<p>The other Mackney is from the 1890s.<br/> <br/> <cite>Edward Bettega said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/e-w-mackney-s-banjo-tutor?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment163036"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For Banjo (1868). The other Mackney tutor (Herman Darewski Music Publishing) has a totally different selection of tunes.</p>
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Lookin…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-15:2667446:Comment:1630432020-12-15T07:40:11.112ZEdward Bettegahttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/EdwardBettega
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Edward Bettega said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=2667446%3AComment%3A163036&xn_out=json&firstPage=1&lastPage=1&xg_token=e53be415c11ade2f515c6b8aea087efe&_=1608011783246#2667446Comment163036"><div><p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For Banjo (1868). The other Mackney tutor (Herman Darewski Music Publishing) has a…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Edward Bettega said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/comment/show?id=2667446%3AComment%3A163036&xn_out=json&firstPage=1&lastPage=1&xg_token=e53be415c11ade2f515c6b8aea087efe&_=1608011783246#2667446Comment163036"><div><p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For Banjo (1868). The other Mackney tutor (Herman Darewski Music Publishing) has a totally different selection of tunes.</p>
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</blockquote> Looking at the contents of th…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-15:2667446:Comment:1630362020-12-15T05:56:34.560ZEdward Bettegahttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/EdwardBettega
<p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For Banjo (1868). The other Mackney tutor (Herman Darewski Music Publishing) has a totally different selection of tunes.</p>
<p>Looking at the contents of the J. Williams edition, a lot of the titles seem to have been copied from Buckley's Guide For Banjo (1868). The other Mackney tutor (Herman Darewski Music Publishing) has a totally different selection of tunes.</p> The British did us no favors…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-03:2667446:Comment:1590882020-12-03T20:09:24.982ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>The British did us no favors by not dating anything. It is very annoying. I think Bob and Eli were using other sources to try and date these things.</p>
<p>I know that as I go through the BMGs and see a piece announced "ready for sale" I will add the date and year to my digital file of it. I mean, how hard would it have been to set four more digits when they printed all this stuff?</p>
<p>The British did us no favors by not dating anything. It is very annoying. I think Bob and Eli were using other sources to try and date these things.</p>
<p>I know that as I go through the BMGs and see a piece announced "ready for sale" I will add the date and year to my digital file of it. I mean, how hard would it have been to set four more digits when they printed all this stuff?</p> Here is your other Mackney tu…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-03:2667446:Comment:1593582020-12-03T20:04:08.885ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Here is your other Mackney tutor Marc...</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/MackneyTutorCopy/mode/2up" target="_blank">https://archive.org/details/MackneyTutorCopy/mode/2up</a></p>
<p>It is in C.</p>
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<p>Here is your other Mackney tutor Marc...</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/MackneyTutorCopy/mode/2up" target="_blank">https://archive.org/details/MackneyTutorCopy/mode/2up</a></p>
<p>It is in C.</p>
<p></p> I would say "early 1890s"....…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-03:2667446:Comment:1590842020-12-03T18:21:28.804ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>I would say "early 1890s"....but probably close enough. Sousa composed "The Washington Post March" in 1889, introduced at a ceremony in June of that year. It was an instant hit but I imagine it would take a little while for it to filter down into a banjo tutor. Sousa toured extensively abroad and also made recordings for Columbia and Berliner.</p>
<p>My Mackay copy has two other Sousa marches (Liberty Bell from 1893 and Manhattan Beach from 1893). It is in "landscape" format but otherwise…</p>
<p>I would say "early 1890s"....but probably close enough. Sousa composed "The Washington Post March" in 1889, introduced at a ceremony in June of that year. It was an instant hit but I imagine it would take a little while for it to filter down into a banjo tutor. Sousa toured extensively abroad and also made recordings for Columbia and Berliner.</p>
<p>My Mackay copy has two other Sousa marches (Liberty Bell from 1893 and Manhattan Beach from 1893). It is in "landscape" format but otherwise the same as the copy you've posted.</p>
<p>I think I have another alternate copy buried in the stacks here...IIRC, I got it from someone in Oz years ago.</p>
<p>As you say, these don't have much in them to really shout about.</p>
<p>edit: I found a copy of the Macknay "50 Popular Songs for the Banjo" and it is totally A-notation. </p> Ha! I really should, shouldn'…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-03:2667446:Comment:1592792020-12-03T16:23:57.946ZPär Engstrandhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/PaerEngstrand
<p>Ha! I really should, shouldn't I? :-)</p>
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<p>Ha! I really should, shouldn't I? :-)</p>
<p></p> You should join the ABF, I wr…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-12-03:2667446:Comment:1590812020-12-03T16:15:45.206ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>You should join the ABF, I wrote an article in our newsletter that clears all of this up.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Pär Engstrand said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/e-w-mackney-s-banjo-tutor?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment159078"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks alot, Joel. Really interesting!</p>
<p>So the Brewster book was published 1885, or? And was it also the first banjo book ever to be published in c notation? Because there's no…</p>
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<p>You should join the ABF, I wrote an article in our newsletter that clears all of this up.<br/> <br/> <cite>Pär Engstrand said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/e-w-mackney-s-banjo-tutor?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment159078"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks alot, Joel. Really interesting!</p>
<p>So the Brewster book was published 1885, or? And was it also the first banjo book ever to be published in c notation? Because there's no explanation what so ever to why he would he would publish a book in a completely new notation. Was there discussions before in Britain on the subject?</p>
<p>When was the first piece/book in c notation published in America?</p>
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