Clifford Essex Professional Dating (they were made 1922 or later). - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T16:58:26Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/clifford-essex-professional-dating-they-were-made-1922-or-later?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A187666&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMy old friend, the late Jon S…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1876672021-10-13T19:59:01.056ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>My old friend, the late Jon Sholle, probably the best guitarist I ever heard, got a new phone and was trying to enter the number and of course his *name* in the New York City telephone directory, the "White Pages". He said to the clerk on the phone "My name is spelled J-O-N, no H. Here's how it appeared in print: Jomoh Sholle. </p>
<p>We all called him Jomoh after that.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:…</cite></p>
<p>My old friend, the late Jon Sholle, probably the best guitarist I ever heard, got a new phone and was trying to enter the number and of course his *name* in the New York City telephone directory, the "White Pages". He said to the clerk on the phone "My name is spelled J-O-N, no H. Here's how it appeared in print: Jomoh Sholle. </p>
<p>We all called him Jomoh after that.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/clifford-essex-professional-dating-they-were-made-1922-or-later?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A187568&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment187568"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Pfft. Somewhere, somehow, deep in the mists of time, I authorized a legal document that had "Mark". Now, every legal document sez Marc aka "Mark". I asked the lawyer about it and she said, "You don't have enough money for me to go looking for it and then correct it. Just sign the document, it has no real meaning."</p>
<p>One more:</p>
<p>I was in a grocery store and the girl behind the cash register needed to write my name down (no idea why), so I responded with my normal "Marc Smith, with a "C". She wrote down Mark Cmith...</p>
<p>Mine is so minor, I wonder about all the millennials with weirdly spelt names. They're gonna be correcting and explaining to people their entire lives (like the kid who was walking out of the salon when I went in for a haircut. The stylist was laughing when I sat down. "You see that kid? His name is Forrest...but his mom spelled it "Sssst" (4 "s" t). She said it is his legal name.") There's a girl in our Publix supermarket Deli named "Emphasis" (it is on her name tag). I want so badly to ask her if she is called "Em" or if she signs her name "!" I certainly would.</p>
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</blockquote> Pfft. Somewhere, somehow, dee…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1875682021-10-13T17:04:12.601ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Pfft. Somewhere, somehow, deep in the mists of time, I authorized a legal document that had "Mark". Now, every legal document sez Marc aka "Mark". I asked the lawyer about it and she said, "You don't have enough money for me to go looking for it and then correct it. Just sign the document, it has no real meaning."</p>
<p>One more:</p>
<p>I was in a grocery store and the girl behind the cash register needed to write my name down (no idea why), so I responded with my normal "Marc Smith, with a…</p>
<p>Pfft. Somewhere, somehow, deep in the mists of time, I authorized a legal document that had "Mark". Now, every legal document sez Marc aka "Mark". I asked the lawyer about it and she said, "You don't have enough money for me to go looking for it and then correct it. Just sign the document, it has no real meaning."</p>
<p>One more:</p>
<p>I was in a grocery store and the girl behind the cash register needed to write my name down (no idea why), so I responded with my normal "Marc Smith, with a "C". She wrote down Mark Cmith...</p>
<p>Mine is so minor, I wonder about all the millennials with weirdly spelt names. They're gonna be correcting and explaining to people their entire lives (like the kid who was walking out of the salon when I went in for a haircut. The stylist was laughing when I sat down. "You see that kid? His name is Forrest...but his mom spelled it "Sssst" (4 "s" t). She said it is his legal name.") There's a girl in our Publix supermarket Deli named "Emphasis" (it is on her name tag). I want so badly to ask her if she is called "Em" or if she signs her name "!" I certainly would.</p> Oh dang… Marc. Sorry about t…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1876662021-10-13T04:26:48.266ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Oh dang… Marc. Sorry about the k.</p>
<p>Oh dang… Marc. Sorry about the k.</p> Of course. I should have know…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1876652021-10-13T03:57:58.050ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Of course. I should have known.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/clifford-essex-professional-dating-they-were-made-1922-or-later?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A187358&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment187358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Gravitas.</div>
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<p>Of course. I should have known.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/clifford-essex-professional-dating-they-were-made-1922-or-later?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A187358&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment187358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Gravitas.</div>
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</blockquote> Who knows? My CG is pretty s…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1873592021-10-13T02:51:07.001ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Who knows? My CG is pretty standard as far as they go and fairly late having a payment book with a first payment of January 24, 1930 (and final payment of July 30, 1930 signed by A. P. Sharpe).</p>
<p>I know that they had a few people making them but at a certain point they established their own workshop.</p>
<p>As far as Metal Hoop Specials, I've played 3, a Weaver built one, mine (which is post Weaver but a pretty good knockoff), and Eli's with is of the same era as Marks.</p>
<p>Mine is…</p>
<p>Who knows? My CG is pretty standard as far as they go and fairly late having a payment book with a first payment of January 24, 1930 (and final payment of July 30, 1930 signed by A. P. Sharpe).</p>
<p>I know that they had a few people making them but at a certain point they established their own workshop.</p>
<p>As far as Metal Hoop Specials, I've played 3, a Weaver built one, mine (which is post Weaver but a pretty good knockoff), and Eli's with is of the same era as Marks.</p>
<p>Mine is mahogany. Eli's is maple. All three are fantastic banjos but very different. Comparing mine to Eli's proved that they were only the same in name. The necks were very different (mine has a much wider fingerboard). The heels were different (mine is a direct copy of Weaver while Eli's is nearly the same as my Professional).</p>
<p>There is something in those English clad rims, perhaps the quarter-sawn oak, that is special.</p>
<p>I would not mind adding a Wood Hoop Special to my library at some point. The one I played was very nice.</p>
<p>You know, it is pretty humid in New England, perhaps mine is holding more water?</p>
<p></p> Gravitas.tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1873582021-10-13T02:32:45.175ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
Gravitas.
Gravitas. That's Nine More i'n it? I wo…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1876642021-10-13T02:18:38.612ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>That's Nine More i'n it? I wonder what accounts for the extra half pound and one ounce. A resonator? Fat frets? Mine has no arm rest. Maybe that reduces the weight a bit. Maybe yours has Heavier Inlays! Maybe it's the wood. Mine is maple. It's got a fairly substantial neck. Banjo mysteries!</p>
<p>That's Nine More i'n it? I wonder what accounts for the extra half pound and one ounce. A resonator? Fat frets? Mine has no arm rest. Maybe that reduces the weight a bit. Maybe yours has Heavier Inlays! Maybe it's the wood. Mine is maple. It's got a fairly substantial neck. Banjo mysteries!</p> Concert Grand = 7 Lbs 13 oztag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-13:2667446:Comment:1874842021-10-13T01:16:45.220ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Concert Grand = 7 Lbs 13 oz</p>
<p>Concert Grand = 7 Lbs 13 oz</p> What does it weigh? :-)
I've…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-12:2667446:Comment:1874832021-10-12T19:47:18.602ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>What does it weigh? :-)</p>
<p>I've had a CE Regal and and an Imperial model. Both excellent banjos. I've played 2 Boudoir Grands, 2 Professionals, 2 Regals besides mine, and about 4 or 5 Paragons. I found the Paragons to be ok, but Iiked the other models more. I have never crossed paths with a wood or metal hoop CE Special. I think I'm missing out on something.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joel Hooks said:…</cite></p>
<p>What does it weigh? :-)</p>
<p>I've had a CE Regal and and an Imperial model. Both excellent banjos. I've played 2 Boudoir Grands, 2 Professionals, 2 Regals besides mine, and about 4 or 5 Paragons. I found the Paragons to be ok, but Iiked the other models more. I have never crossed paths with a wood or metal hoop CE Special. I think I'm missing out on something.<br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/clifford-essex-professional-dating-they-were-made-1922-or-later?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A187566&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment187566"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also have a Concert Grand (can you tell I like CE banjos?).</p>
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</blockquote> I also have a Concert Grand (…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2021-10-12:2667446:Comment:1875662021-10-12T18:16:10.719ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>I also have a Concert Grand (can you tell I like CE banjos?).</p>
<p>I also have a Concert Grand (can you tell I like CE banjos?).</p>