BERT BASSETT - Classic-Banjo2024-03-29T08:50:43Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/bert-bassett-1?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Tony : For a first foray i…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-09:2667446:Comment:1459542020-09-09T14:21:48.569ZShawn McSweenyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/ShawnMcSweeny
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi Tony : For a first foray into UK genealogical records, things have gone well. Finding Dorothy's occupation as music teacher was an unexpected but welcome bonus, reinforcing the notion this is the right Bassett household. Bert was apparently a skilled pianist, probably learning under his mother's tutelage.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A cousin of mine in Ireland has considerable experience in UK genealogy resources, having traced our family…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi Tony : For a first foray into UK genealogical records, things have gone well. Finding Dorothy's occupation as music teacher was an unexpected but welcome bonus, reinforcing the notion this is the right Bassett household. Bert was apparently a skilled pianist, probably learning under his mother's tutelage.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A cousin of mine in Ireland has considerable experience in UK genealogy resources, having traced our family back several generations. It's time for me to contact him on tips for advancing further with UK searches.</span></p>
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<p></p> Shawn, a lovely piece of rese…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-09:2667446:Comment:1459532020-09-09T13:43:25.518ZTONY BRYANhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/TONYBRYAN
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Shawn, a lovely piece of research work! I'm sure it's him, but we could do with some corroborating facts: do we know his father was also Albert? The Clifford Essex obituary mentions his father (also a banjo player, apparently, so that could be confusing) bringing the young Bert to the shop and recommending him for a job. So it's likely that, at about 17 years old, he became a clerk at the shop. I have seen no mention of the influence of his mother as a…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Shawn, a lovely piece of research work! I'm sure it's him, but we could do with some corroborating facts: do we know his father was also Albert? The Clifford Essex obituary mentions his father (also a banjo player, apparently, so that could be confusing) bringing the young Bert to the shop and recommending him for a job. So it's likely that, at about 17 years old, he became a clerk at the shop. I have seen no mention of the influence of his mother as a music teacher, though it seems logical that there was such an influence. I am also certain that I have seen somewhere a mention of a 'Charles' Bassett playing at one of the BMG clubs, but I can't lay my hands on it. It would not be surprising that the younger brother would also play the banjo, and it would not take much clairvoyance to predict that he would get fed up with being under the shadow of his older brother and would cultivate roses, or something. For the sake of completeness, it would be interesting to know if brother Charles went into the music business or followed his father as a cobbler. Obviously, in 1911 he would have been still at school, or just about to leave. He would have been just about able to enlist during the war, but we do know he outlived his brother, Bert. <br/></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I like the idea of a statistical study of the height and weight of famous banjo players - it would help those of us who are outside the norm decide whether it's worth continuing. But going back to the subject of his ill health and possible deformity, we do know that he died of bronchial pneumonia at Guy's Hospital (in Southwark), and Grimshaw describes him as an 'inmate' there. Anyone out there with access to medical records? Tarrant Bailey snr notes that he was very fond of his pipe - no wonder he suffered from bouts of bronchitis! But in those days no-one saw the connection. Ah well. <br/></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Anyhow, thanks for all the help. Keep it coming! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Regards</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Tony</span></p> Reviewing my five sets of rec…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1459522020-09-08T21:48:39.998ZShawn McSweenyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/ShawnMcSweeny
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Reviewing my five sets of records mentioned above, I see there is just one Bassett household with an Albert <strong>T</strong>, b. c.1894, and having one brother, no other siblings. This narrows the field about as well as one can expect.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The family info is as follows : </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1911 residence : St James Westminister; Sub-District : St James & St…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Reviewing my five sets of records mentioned above, I see there is just one Bassett household with an Albert <strong>T</strong>, b. c.1894, and having one brother, no other siblings. This narrows the field about as well as one can expect.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The family info is as follows : </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1911 residence : St James Westminister; Sub-District : St James & St Anne</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Father</strong> : Albert Bassett, b. c.1869, St John's Manchester Lancashire; occupation : Boot Maker </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Mother</strong> : Dorothy T. Bassett, b. c.1871, St John's London; 1911 occupation : Music Teacher</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Son</strong> : Albert T. Bassett, b. c.1893, St Pancras, London; 1911 occupation : Clerk</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Son</strong> : Charles Bassett, b. c.1898 St. James, London</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 16px;">Birth years are estimates based on age information provided on the census and usually accurate to within a year.</span></p> Another bit of info has cross…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1459512020-09-08T16:27:38.936ZRichard William Inesonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/RichardWilliamIneson351
<p>Another bit of info has crossed my mind, Essex ran at least two Pierrot Troupes, BB played with the one which did at least one summer season under the leadership of Kate Moss in Le Touquet.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Shawn McSweeny said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Another bit of info has crossed my mind, Essex ran at least two Pierrot Troupes, BB played with the one which did at least one summer season under the leadership of Kate Moss in Le Touquet.<br/> <br/> <cite>Shawn McSweeny said:</cite></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for posting your wealth of information.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From 1901 and 1911 census records I found five families with an Albert Basset born in London c.1894. Subsequent census records, (<span>unavailable through my source), </span>would likely show one with occupation musician and narrow the field.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From a ship manifest, I can report that he traveled to New York aboard the Empress of France as a bandsman in 1925, and stood 5'-8', weighing 140 lb.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">He died in Southwark, London, 1937.</span></p>
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Thanks for…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1458952020-09-08T15:59:28.778ZShawn McSweenyhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/ShawnMcSweeny
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tony and Richard :</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for posting your wealth of information.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From 1901 and 1911 census records I found five families with an Albert Basset born in London c.1894. Subsequent census records, (<span>unavailable through my source), </span>would likely show one with occupation musician and narrow the field.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From a ship…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tony and Richard :</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for posting your wealth of information.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From 1901 and 1911 census records I found five families with an Albert Basset born in London c.1894. Subsequent census records, (<span>unavailable through my source), </span>would likely show one with occupation musician and narrow the field.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From a ship manifest, I can report that he traveled to New York aboard the Empress of France as a bandsman in 1925, and stood 5'-8', weighing 140 lb.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">He died in Southwark, London, 1937.</span></p> TONY BRYAN said:
Richard, S…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1459502020-09-08T11:54:36.056ZRichard William Inesonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/RichardWilliamIneson351
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>TONY BRYAN said:</cite></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Thanks for the info. The obituary from the June 1937 BMG is particularly useful as the June, July and August editions of that year are missing from the…</span></p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>TONY BRYAN said:</cite></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Thanks for the info. The obituary from the June 1937 BMG is particularly useful as the June, July and August editions of that year are missing from the John Field library. I am assuming there were also letters to the editor about Bert Bassett that could be helpful. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">According to W. M. Brewer, Albert Thomas Bassett was born in London in 1894. That narrows it down, but not by much!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">In answer to my own question of earlier in this chain: BB does not seem to have married as he is said to have left behind a mother and brother when he died. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Regards</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Tony</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I was lucky to find this single page tucked away in some BB sheet music, as I haven't got the June 1937 B.M.G. either. Of course there will be other items other than those I have located.</span></p>
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</blockquote> tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1459492020-09-08T09:55:27.741ZRichard William Inesonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/RichardWilliamIneson351
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Thanks for th…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1458942020-09-08T08:40:52.908ZTONY BRYANhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/TONYBRYAN
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Richard, Shawn,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Thanks for the info. The obituary from the June 1937 BMG is particularly useful as the June, July and August editions of that year are missing from the John Field library. I am assuming there were also letters to the editor about Bert Bassett that could be helpful. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">According to W. M. Brewer, Albert Thomas Bassett was born in London in 1894. That narrows…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Richard, Shawn,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Thanks for the info. The obituary from the June 1937 BMG is particularly useful as the June, July and August editions of that year are missing from the John Field library. I am assuming there were also letters to the editor about Bert Bassett that could be helpful. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">According to W. M. Brewer, Albert Thomas Bassett was born in London in 1894. That narrows it down, but not by much!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">In answer to my own question of earlier in this chain: BB does not seem to have married as he is said to have left behind a mother and brother when he died. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Regards</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Tony</span></p> tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2020-09-08:2667446:Comment:1459482020-09-08T07:51:28.668ZRichard William Inesonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/RichardWilliamIneson351
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