Abbots Bromley Horn Dance (for two banjos) - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T22:04:39Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A133982&feed=yes&xn_auth=noVery nice tune, Joel. Fun to…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2019-01-01:2667446:Comment:1339822019-01-01T17:42:49.944ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Very nice tune, Joel. Fun to play!</p>
<p>Very nice tune, Joel. Fun to play!</p> Through his books and Library…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-31:2667446:Comment:1339752018-12-31T20:43:40.342ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Through his books and Library of Congress recordings Alan Lomax, and John Lomax before him, spread knowledge of the songs to a different demographic from those who sang the songs to the Lomax-s. Many of the descendants of those who sang for them did reject the old music in favor of what was on the radio, but not all of them. As for Cecil Sharp you are right in respect to England. He found English songs in Appalachia that had been forgotten in England. The texts existed in books but the…</p>
<p>Through his books and Library of Congress recordings Alan Lomax, and John Lomax before him, spread knowledge of the songs to a different demographic from those who sang the songs to the Lomax-s. Many of the descendants of those who sang for them did reject the old music in favor of what was on the radio, but not all of them. As for Cecil Sharp you are right in respect to England. He found English songs in Appalachia that had been forgotten in England. The texts existed in books but the melodies had been forgotten. Until recently Sharp's books were not well known in the USA. Sharp was in my opinion a very good listener and a skilled musical scribe. His notations of what he heard in Appalachia are believable to me. Perhaps I am ascribing virtues to Sharp that really are due to Maud Karpeles. At any rate the notations are good. Another very astute listener was Ralph Vaughn Williams. His classical arrangements of folk melody show a real appreciation and understanding of what he was arranging. "Soy Bean Barren Ghoul" was another matter entirely. He purged both words and melodies of all the good parts.<br/> <cite>Steve Harrison said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A134062&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment134062"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The folk music revival in England was spearheaded by Cecil Sharp and his associates Maud Kapeles and Mary Neal who travelled around the UK collecting folk dance tunes and long forgotten songs. In 1911, they formed the English Folk Dance Society, later to become The English Folk Dance and Song Society and the E.F.D.S collection became the main source material for many later performers and singers when the revival set off apace in the early 1950s. In 1916, Sharp and Keppels visited the US and travelled around the Appalations collecting around 1500 tunes and 500 songs. When I was at elementary school in the early 1950s, it was mainly English folk songs that we sang in our music sessions and we also partook in what was then called English Country Dancing, dancing to the strains of 70 rpm records played on a wind up gramophone. It was this early association that influenced my passion for traditional music. Without the efforts of Cecil Sharp, and in the US Alan Lomax, the folk music that we know today may well have been forgotten...Steve.</p>
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</blockquote> The folk music revival in Eng…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-31:2667446:Comment:1340622018-12-31T08:43:18.372ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>The folk music revival in England was spearheaded by Cecil Sharp and his associates Maud Kapeles and Mary Neal who travelled around the UK collecting folk dance tunes and long forgotten songs. In 1911, they formed the English Folk Dance Society, later to become The English Folk Dance and Song Society and the E.F.D.S collection became the main source material for many later performers and singers when the revival set off apace in the early 1950s. In 1916, Sharp and Keppels visited the US and…</p>
<p>The folk music revival in England was spearheaded by Cecil Sharp and his associates Maud Kapeles and Mary Neal who travelled around the UK collecting folk dance tunes and long forgotten songs. In 1911, they formed the English Folk Dance Society, later to become The English Folk Dance and Song Society and the E.F.D.S collection became the main source material for many later performers and singers when the revival set off apace in the early 1950s. In 1916, Sharp and Keppels visited the US and travelled around the Appalations collecting around 1500 tunes and 500 songs. When I was at elementary school in the early 1950s, it was mainly English folk songs that we sang in our music sessions and we also partook in what was then called English Country Dancing, dancing to the strains of 70 rpm records played on a wind up gramophone. It was this early association that influenced my passion for traditional music. Without the efforts of Cecil Sharp, and in the US Alan Lomax, the folk music that we know today may well have been forgotten...Steve.</p> Much or most of the continuou…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-30:2667446:Comment:1339712018-12-30T20:08:30.416ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Much or most of the continuous history of the vernacular styles of playing the five-string banjo is also known. Those who knew and know generally did not write down and publish their knowledge. Being born in 1946 and receiving my first banjo in 1957 I was easily able to meet any number of banjo players who were born in the 19th century and who were very clear about who their mentors or exemplars were. </p>
<p>What we call classic banjo is one sweet water branch of a larger banjo river. If…</p>
<p>Much or most of the continuous history of the vernacular styles of playing the five-string banjo is also known. Those who knew and know generally did not write down and publish their knowledge. Being born in 1946 and receiving my first banjo in 1957 I was easily able to meet any number of banjo players who were born in the 19th century and who were very clear about who their mentors or exemplars were. </p>
<p>What we call classic banjo is one sweet water branch of a larger banjo river. If those writing about other streams misrepresent the facts and if they confuse their branch for the entire river it does not mean that all the thousands of banjo players living on the banks of the streams that are not Classic Banjo are deluded or misguided or worse. </p>
<p>What IS their fault (of many) is the dumbing down of the old repertoire to cartoonish levels. </p>
<p>Anyway, Happy New Year, Joel. <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A134061&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment134061"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yes, at least for me, classic banjo is totally nostalgic and based in the past. We our lucky though, the central people in what we call classic banjo were fond of writing about it in magazines, letters, books, catalogs, sheet music, and newspapers. That history is easy to find. Very little blanks to fill in.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment133850"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm not very happy with that word either. I think maybe you distrust revivalist music. There are plenty of good reasons for this. Each awful player is yet another reason. But isn't what we're all doing with classic banjo a sort of revivalism? <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A133941&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment133941"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Perhaps I just don't like the word "folk." I have to admit that "vernacular" might be worse.</p>
<p>At any rate, I am all for Pagan harvest and solstice/light festivals. It is a great way to break up all these dark winter nights.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am quite happy with how the arrangement came out.</p>
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</blockquote> Yes, at least for me, classic…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-30:2667446:Comment:1340612018-12-30T16:59:54.201ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Yes, at least for me, classic banjo is totally nostalgic and based in the past. We our lucky though, the central people in what we call classic banjo were fond of writing about it in magazines, letters, books, catalogs, sheet music, and newspapers. That history is easy to find. Very little blanks to fill in.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jody Stecher said:…</cite></p>
<p>Yes, at least for me, classic banjo is totally nostalgic and based in the past. We our lucky though, the central people in what we call classic banjo were fond of writing about it in magazines, letters, books, catalogs, sheet music, and newspapers. That history is easy to find. Very little blanks to fill in.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment133850"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm not very happy with that word either. I think maybe you distrust revivalist music. There are plenty of good reasons for this. Each awful player is yet another reason. But isn't what we're all doing with classic banjo a sort of revivalism? <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A133941&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment133941"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Perhaps I just don't like the word "folk." I have to admit that "vernacular" might be worse.</p>
<p>At any rate, I am all for Pagan harvest and solstice/light festivals. It is a great way to break up all these dark winter nights.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am quite happy with how the arrangement came out.</p>
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</blockquote> I'm not very happy with that…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-25:2667446:Comment:1338502018-12-25T03:38:52.748ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>I'm not very happy with that word either. I think maybe you distrust revivalist music. There are plenty of good reasons for this. Each awful player is yet another reason. But isn't what we're all doing with classic banjo a sort of revivalism? <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joel Hooks said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I'm not very happy with that word either. I think maybe you distrust revivalist music. There are plenty of good reasons for this. Each awful player is yet another reason. But isn't what we're all doing with classic banjo a sort of revivalism? <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/abbots-bromley-horn-dance-for-two-banjos?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A133941&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment133941"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Perhaps I just don't like the word "folk." I have to admit that "vernacular" might be worse.</p>
<p>At any rate, I am all for Pagan harvest and solstice/light festivals. It is a great way to break up all these dark winter nights.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am quite happy with how the arrangement came out.</p>
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</blockquote> Perhaps I just don't like the…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-25:2667446:Comment:1339412018-12-25T00:25:41.874ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>Perhaps I just don't like the word "folk." I have to admit that "vernacular" might be worse.</p>
<p>At any rate, I am all for Pagan harvest and solstice/light festivals. It is a great way to break up all these dark winter nights.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am quite happy with how the arrangement came out.</p>
<p>Perhaps I just don't like the word "folk." I have to admit that "vernacular" might be worse.</p>
<p>At any rate, I am all for Pagan harvest and solstice/light festivals. It is a great way to break up all these dark winter nights.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I am quite happy with how the arrangement came out.</p> This is what I've been talkin…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-24:2667446:Comment:1338472018-12-24T22:12:47.805ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>This is what I've been talking about. This is folk music and dance. It is all about continuity and not about nostalgia. The ABHD has been done every year in the same little village since at least the 15th century and possibly since the 12th. Not one dancer or musician looks back longingly to "the good old days". </p>
<p>This is what I've been talking about. This is folk music and dance. It is all about continuity and not about nostalgia. The ABHD has been done every year in the same little village since at least the 15th century and possibly since the 12th. Not one dancer or musician looks back longingly to "the good old days". </p> I'll cheat...
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<p>I'll cheat...</p>
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<p>Terrible computer midi tone.</p>
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<p>Notice that I put no "copyright" on it-- my arrangement is a gift to all banjoists to do with as they want.</p> test uploadtag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-12-24:2667446:Comment:1338452018-12-24T20:14:49.035Zthereallynicemanhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/thereallyniceman
<p>test upload</p>
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