A bit "off topic", A. P. Sharpe's "Make Your Own Spanish Guitar" - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T19:18:48Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A188913&feed=yes&xn_auth=noReturning to Make Your Own Sp…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-05-19:2667446:Comment:1900362022-05-19T17:03:18.920ZPaul Magnussenhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/PaulMagnussen
<p>Returning to <em>Make Your Own Spanish Guitar:</em> you may be interested to know that the famous luthier John Gilbert, whose guitars were played by (among others) David Russell and David Tanenbaum, got his start with that book.</p>
<p>You can read about it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paulmagnussen.com/john-gilbert-interview.html" target="_blank">www.paulmagnussen.com/john-gilbert-interview.html</a></p>
<p>Returning to <em>Make Your Own Spanish Guitar:</em> you may be interested to know that the famous luthier John Gilbert, whose guitars were played by (among others) David Russell and David Tanenbaum, got his start with that book.</p>
<p>You can read about it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.paulmagnussen.com/john-gilbert-interview.html" target="_blank">www.paulmagnussen.com/john-gilbert-interview.html</a></p> YES Marc , you 're right , i…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-03-12:2667446:Comment:1894432022-03-12T08:06:39.944Zmarc dalmassohttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/marcdalmasso
<p>YES Marc , you 're right , it 's exactly what 001 means </p>
<p>The bad new is that Henri passed away 12 days ago , i went to his funeral this last wednesday ; some of his students were playing some classical guitar ' pieces <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10203753686?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10203753686?profile=RESIZE_710x"></img></a> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:…</cite></p>
<p>YES Marc , you 're right , it 's exactly what 001 means </p>
<p>The bad new is that Henri passed away 12 days ago , i went to his funeral this last wednesday ; some of his students were playing some classical guitar ' pieces <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10203753686?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10203753686?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment188916"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>n°001 = #1 = number one. I would interpret this as her favorite student. This is typical with famous teachers, much like J.P. Cunninghame was Joe Morley's #1 student.</span></p>
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<p><span>"n°" appears to be the French method. Americans typically use "#". <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign</a></span></p>
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</blockquote> To be sure, I'm simply engagi…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-27:2667446:Comment:1893482022-02-27T18:57:28.426ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>To be sure, I'm simply engaging in idle speculation. It's raining here and I don't feel like going out to the garage and unboxing more crap...(though I found three Cello tops and three-dozen rough ebony fingerboards yesterday).</p>
<p>I had at least one schoolteacher that used leading zeros, I guess out of habit. Some people feel that the number 1 (one) is easily misinterpreted if it stands alone "1" v "l", etc. Adding leading zeros "001" is sometimes used for such clarity. Modern text might…</p>
<p>To be sure, I'm simply engaging in idle speculation. It's raining here and I don't feel like going out to the garage and unboxing more crap...(though I found three Cello tops and three-dozen rough ebony fingerboards yesterday).</p>
<p>I had at least one schoolteacher that used leading zeros, I guess out of habit. Some people feel that the number 1 (one) is easily misinterpreted if it stands alone "1" v "l", etc. Adding leading zeros "001" is sometimes used for such clarity. Modern text might drive the "#1" out of usage soon. A young person (what do they call the latest generation now, Gen Z?) might read that as "hashtag 1"...and be really confused...unless it is some kind of funny hashtag code known only to Gen Z people. =8^0</p>
<p>Just thinking logically and personally, I would say very few teachers might think numerically about their students. Maybe nostalgically: dreamily: "Oh, my first real student was such an idiot..."<br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189257"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks, I thought that might be the case but the zeroes perplexed me. And I wondered if number one meant the best student, or the closest student, or the first student they ever had. T<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A188916&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment188916"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>n°001 = #1 = number one. I would interpret this as her favorite student. This is typical with famous teachers, much like J.P. Cunninghame was Joe Morley's #1 student.</span></p>
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<p><span>"n°" appears to be the French method. Americans typically use "#". <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign</a></span></p>
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</blockquote> Thanks, I thought that might…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-27:2667446:Comment:1892572022-02-27T18:28:15.276ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Thanks, I thought that might be the case but the zeroes perplexed me. And I wondered if number one meant the best student, or the closest student, or the first student they ever had. T<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A188916&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment188916"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>n°001 = #1 =…</span></p>
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<p>Thanks, I thought that might be the case but the zeroes perplexed me. And I wondered if number one meant the best student, or the closest student, or the first student they ever had. T<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A188916&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment188916"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><span>n°001 = #1 = number one. I would interpret this as her favorite student. This is typical with famous teachers, much like J.P. Cunninghame was Joe Morley's #1 student.</span></p>
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<p><span>"n°" appears to be the French method. Americans typically use "#". <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign</a></span></p>
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</blockquote> n°001 = #1 = number one. I wo…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-27:2667446:Comment:1889162022-02-27T15:46:25.993ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p><span>n°001 = #1 = number one. I would interpret this as her favorite student. This is typical with famous teachers, much like J.P. Cunninghame was Joe Morley's #1 student.</span></p>
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<p><span>"n°" appears to be the French method. Americans typically use "#". <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign</a></span></p>
<p><span>n°001 = #1 = number one. I would interpret this as her favorite student. This is typical with famous teachers, much like J.P. Cunninghame was Joe Morley's #1 student.</span></p>
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<p><span>"n°" appears to be the French method. Americans typically use "#". <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numero_sign</a></span></p> I imagine he was their guitar…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-27:2667446:Comment:1892562022-02-27T14:23:42.666ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>I imagine he was their guitar student. It's hard to imagine them teaching banjolin. What does <span>n°001 mean please?</span></p>
<p><span>Here is a link to a video (not just audio) of Ida Presti at age 14 (or 13?) playing a Tarrega Vals: </span></p>
<p><span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80e59KaF60&t=3s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80e59KaF60&t=3s</a></span></p>
<p><span>Even at that age her hands were </span>amazingly…</p>
<p>I imagine he was their guitar student. It's hard to imagine them teaching banjolin. What does <span>n°001 mean please?</span></p>
<p><span>Here is a link to a video (not just audio) of Ida Presti at age 14 (or 13?) playing a Tarrega Vals: </span></p>
<p><span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80e59KaF60&t=3s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80e59KaF60&t=3s</a></span></p>
<p><span>Even at that age her hands were </span>amazingly powerful. </p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>marc dalmasso said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A188913&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment188913"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>my friend Henri Dorigny , playing banjolin on this video with Pat , éric & me is Alexandre Lagoya / ida Presti ' student n°001 ..<a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0</a></p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189091"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Even more off-topic banjo-wise, but the other day I stumbled on early videos of Ida Presti playing classical guitar as a teenager. It's just stunning. For instance on YouTube there's 1 minute waltz cameo from the film "Le Petit Chose". Wow. And maybe not off-topic since we are playing "guitar-style" banjo. <br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A189341&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189090"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>LOL, I was just writing an addendum to my last post. I discovered that the advertisement is for "The Story Of The Spanish Guitar"</p>
<p>The "How To" book probably ought to be categorized more properly with many of the "How To" books of the period (Learn the Saxophone in 12 easy lessons!)...not really enough information for a neophyte and just enough to give the amateur woodworker a bit of "heads up" as to how difficult it really is to actually make a guitar...well, a decent one.</p>
<p>Classical handmade guitars have a tradition that is centuries old. Many famous makers had very little in the way of tools, fixtures and equipment...and this book is based on that tradition. It certainly recognizes that one can't make just one guitar and have it be of concert quality (even though it is trying to lure you in).</p>
<p>I think I could make one based on this book, but I have experience. 50 yrs ago, the result would have looked like hammered, um, excrement. Today I know enough to probably have a good result.</p>
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<p>my friend Henri Dorigny , playing banjolin on this video with Pat , éric & me is Alexandre Lagoya / ida Presti ' student n°001 ..<a href="https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0" rel="noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0</a></p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189091"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Even…</p>
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<p>my friend Henri Dorigny , playing banjolin on this video with Pat , éric & me is Alexandre Lagoya / ida Presti ' student n°001 ..<a href="https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://youtu.be/Y_0Fk-Xmzs0</a></p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jody Stecher said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189091"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Even more off-topic banjo-wise, but the other day I stumbled on early videos of Ida Presti playing classical guitar as a teenager. It's just stunning. For instance on YouTube there's 1 minute waltz cameo from the film "Le Petit Chose". Wow. And maybe not off-topic since we are playing "guitar-style" banjo. <br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A189341&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189090"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>LOL, I was just writing an addendum to my last post. I discovered that the advertisement is for "The Story Of The Spanish Guitar"</p>
<p>The "How To" book probably ought to be categorized more properly with many of the "How To" books of the period (Learn the Saxophone in 12 easy lessons!)...not really enough information for a neophyte and just enough to give the amateur woodworker a bit of "heads up" as to how difficult it really is to actually make a guitar...well, a decent one.</p>
<p>Classical handmade guitars have a tradition that is centuries old. Many famous makers had very little in the way of tools, fixtures and equipment...and this book is based on that tradition. It certainly recognizes that one can't make just one guitar and have it be of concert quality (even though it is trying to lure you in).</p>
<p>I think I could make one based on this book, but I have experience. 50 yrs ago, the result would have looked like hammered, um, excrement. Today I know enough to probably have a good result.</p>
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</blockquote> Even more off-topic banjo-wis…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-26:2667446:Comment:1890912022-02-26T22:14:40.941ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Even more off-topic banjo-wise, but the other day I stumbled on early videos of Ida Presti playing classical guitar as a teenager. It's just stunning. For instance on YouTube there's 1 minute waltz cameo from the film "Le Petit Chose". Wow. And maybe not off-topic since we are playing "guitar-style" banjo. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:…</cite></p>
<p>Even more off-topic banjo-wise, but the other day I stumbled on early videos of Ida Presti playing classical guitar as a teenager. It's just stunning. For instance on YouTube there's 1 minute waltz cameo from the film "Le Petit Chose". Wow. And maybe not off-topic since we are playing "guitar-style" banjo. <br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-bit-off-topic-a-p-sharpe-s-make-your-own-spanish-guitar?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A189341&xg_source=activity#2667446Comment189090"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>LOL, I was just writing an addendum to my last post. I discovered that the advertisement is for "The Story Of The Spanish Guitar"</p>
<p>The "How To" book probably ought to be categorized more properly with many of the "How To" books of the period (Learn the Saxophone in 12 easy lessons!)...not really enough information for a neophyte and just enough to give the amateur woodworker a bit of "heads up" as to how difficult it really is to actually make a guitar...well, a decent one.</p>
<p>Classical handmade guitars have a tradition that is centuries old. Many famous makers had very little in the way of tools, fixtures and equipment...and this book is based on that tradition. It certainly recognizes that one can't make just one guitar and have it be of concert quality (even though it is trying to lure you in).</p>
<p>I think I could make one based on this book, but I have experience. 50 yrs ago, the result would have looked like hammered, um, excrement. Today I know enough to probably have a good result.</p>
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</blockquote> LOL, I was just writing an ad…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-26:2667446:Comment:1890902022-02-26T16:34:34.136ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>LOL, I was just writing an addendum to my last post. I discovered that the advertisement is for "The Story Of The Spanish Guitar"</p>
<p>The "How To" book probably ought to be categorized more properly with many of the "How To" books of the period (Learn the Saxophone in 12 easy lessons!)...not really enough information for a neophyte and just enough to give the amateur woodworker a bit of "heads up" as to how difficult it really is to actually make a guitar...well, a decent…</p>
<p>LOL, I was just writing an addendum to my last post. I discovered that the advertisement is for "The Story Of The Spanish Guitar"</p>
<p>The "How To" book probably ought to be categorized more properly with many of the "How To" books of the period (Learn the Saxophone in 12 easy lessons!)...not really enough information for a neophyte and just enough to give the amateur woodworker a bit of "heads up" as to how difficult it really is to actually make a guitar...well, a decent one.</p>
<p>Classical handmade guitars have a tradition that is centuries old. Many famous makers had very little in the way of tools, fixtures and equipment...and this book is based on that tradition. It certainly recognizes that one can't make just one guitar and have it be of concert quality (even though it is trying to lure you in).</p>
<p>I think I could make one based on this book, but I have experience. 50 yrs ago, the result would have looked like hammered, um, excrement. Today I know enough to probably have a good result.</p> There is a scan of it floatin…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2022-02-26:2667446:Comment:1893412022-02-26T16:20:47.221ZJoel Hookshttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/deuceswilde
<p>There is a scan of it floating around I found some time ago. I also have a physical copy of Sharpe’s “Story of the Spanish Guitar” (or whatever it is called). Very basic info on history then goes into bios on contemporary players.</p>
<p>When I first saw this one I wondered if the real motive was to discourage people from making them… rather to show how difficult it is so they should buy one from CE.</p>
<p>There is a scan of it floating around I found some time ago. I also have a physical copy of Sharpe’s “Story of the Spanish Guitar” (or whatever it is called). Very basic info on history then goes into bios on contemporary players.</p>
<p>When I first saw this one I wondered if the real motive was to discourage people from making them… rather to show how difficult it is so they should buy one from CE.</p>