Ragtime Episode FVE--Ish

This is from the 5-Stringer #83 published 1960.

Ragtime_Episode_83_1960.pdf

It is about as close as you are going to find.  It is the version most of us play at the ABF rallies.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 4, 2017 at 22:27
Thanks a lot Joel
Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 4, 2017 at 22:38
There seems a lot of ways to play that 2cnd measure/bar if my understanding is correct. This one is slightly different as there is no rest to start with but 7 notes with a pinch on the 2cnd note.... the first being worth 2 beats I think. Please forgive my total notation ignorance. I shall enjoy playing around in any case.
Permalink Reply by Joel Hooks on June 5, 2017 at 0:07

To gum up the works a little, here is how it was originally published by Stewart and Bauer.  Notice anything missing?

And to confuse matters even more, this one is in A notation.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 5, 2017 at 0:30
Hi Joel ...Have I missed an attachment here?
Permalink Reply by Jody Stecher on June 5, 2017 at 1:16

Oooh!  I like this version the best.  thanks, Joel.

Joel Hooks said:

To gum up the works a little, here is how it was originally published by Stewart and Bauer.  Notice anything missing?

And to confuse matters even more, this one is in A notation.

Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 5, 2017 at 6:59
Found it! Yeah there's a rest there! Gives it a Jazz feel .... syncopation ??? Not sure of the fingering/notes but going to play around once I get back from work. The high note with a tail is the 5th string open I think.
Permalink Reply by Jody Stecher on June 5, 2017 at 17:37

yes that tail is a special banjo symbol for the fifth string.

Daniel Pearce said:

Found it! Yeah there's a rest there! Gives it a Jazz feel .... syncopation ??? Not sure of the fingering/notes but going to play around once I get back from work. The high note with a tail is the 5th string open I think.
Permalink Reply by Joel Hooks on June 5, 2017 at 19:22

Hi Daniel, there is a whole series of "edits" that are specific to banjo notation that make it easy to read.  Very easy to read.

While different publishers used slightly different variations on them, they are pretty consistent across the board.

Many of the naysayers regarding notation for fretted instruments (and especially what are sometimes called "folk instruments") will often show their ignorance of properly edited banjo notation by pointing out problems that have all been addressed with the edits.

Take a look at some of the "C notation" books that are available on this website.  All of them will teach you how to read notation for banjo (easy to do, just follow the instructions and exercises).  Some are better than others.

Many like the Grimshaw book but I would recommend against his "How to Excel" as it is just endless exercises.  

The "E-Z Method" is nice and to the point.  


Stahl's book is good too.  https://archive.org/details/Wm.C.StahlsInternationalBanjoMethod

The Frank Bradbury book currently in print from Mel Bay is great for learning to read but the music leaves something to be desired.  The Bradbury book that I scanned and is posted on this site is extreamly technical and has more information than you will ever need.

Permalink Reply by Jody Stecher on June 5, 2017 at 20:14

I agree about the music in Bradbury. I disagree about the "exercises" in How To Excel. Each is designed to encourage a particular skill. Each is musically enjoyable and far from dull. However How To Excel is not Where To Begin.

Joel Hooks said:

Hi Daniel, there is a whole series of "edits" that are specific to banjo notation that make it easy to read.  Very easy to read.

While different publishers used slightly different variations on them, they are pretty consistent across the board.

Many of the naysayers regarding notation for fretted instruments (and especially what are sometimes called "folk instruments") will often show their ignorance of properly edited banjo notation by pointing out problems that have all been addressed with the edits.

Take a look at some of the "C notation" books that are available on this website.  All of them will teach you how to read notation for banjo (easy to do, just follow the instructions and exercises).  Some are better than others.

Many like the Grimshaw book but I would recommend against his "How to Excel" as it is just endless exercises.  

The "E-Z Method" is nice and to the point.  


Stahl's book is good too.  https://archive.org/details/Wm.C.StahlsInternationalBanjoMethod

The Frank Bradbury book currently in print from Mel Bay is great for learning to read but the music leaves something to be desired.  The Bradbury book that I scanned and is posted on this site is extreamly technical and has more information than you will ever need.

Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 5, 2017 at 21:11
I've got the How to Excel book but didn't learn enough from it before getting excited by the Ragtime Episode tune I heard and looking for a shortcut on how to play it as easily as possible. I'm not apologising for this but wonder whether the real answer for any time pressed, budding enthusiast is to go down the academic/notation route or the intuitive/listen and give it a go route. Probably some mixture of the 2 is the answer! I struggle with this all the time but am thinking, due to this tab confusion, a bit more trust in how it SOUNDS is the thing here. Ha ha forgive me .... I can go on
Permalink Reply by Joel Hooks on June 5, 2017 at 21:22

You only need to learn how to read once.  

Permalink Reply by Daniel PEARCE on June 6, 2017 at 9:55

True enough ....shall crack on with some study!

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