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Mike Redman left a comment for allan ideson
"Hi Allan, I have posted some photos of my Abbott banjo for you to look at."
May 21, 2012
Mike Redman left a comment for allan ideson
"Hi Allan, if you take a look at the 'photo's page, there is a picture of Mr & Mrs Frank Merton of Glasgow with an Abbott banjo the same as ours, well similar as I know yours has the fifth peg in the centre of the peg head of the banjo."
May 20, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for David Wade
"thanks dave ,,i have slackened the strings ...but it came with steel strings and the tailpiece has the hooks on.thats why i bought steel strings but ill chat to you tomorrow.....allan"
Mar 7, 2012
Mike Moss left a comment for allan ideson
"Hi Allan, why not play with 5 strings? The 5th string just makes things easier, and 99% of the stuff here is written for the 5-string banjo. If you need good banjo strings, get a Heavy nylon set from Clifford Essex -- they're cheap and they…"
Mar 7, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for David Wade
"thanks for the advise david ..i dont know the best strings yet.the ones i put on were gibson vega.i would rather have a phospher bronze string on the 4th and 3rd ..they didnt have much choice where i bought them ...but there looks to be plenty on…"
Mar 7, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for Richard William Ineson
"thats a good idea richard,ime afraid ime a novice so far .i would rather have 4 strings at the moment...i fingerpick on my guitars but the string spacing in alian to me at the moment ...i will get another bridge and spread the strings a bit...thanks"
Mar 7, 2012
Richard William Ineson left a comment for allan ideson
"The fifth string tunnel, instead of the standard side mounted fifth peg was available for people who wanted a five string banjo that could also be used as a plectrum banjo - the bridge had a little notch on the side and when you played with the…"
Mar 7, 2012
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Mar 7, 2012
David Wade left a comment for allan ideson
"Nearly right Jody, Jack Abbott Snr worked for B&M up to about 1912 when they had a big bust up and Jack Abbott and tweleve craftsman walked out and started up their own business. There was a court case mainly around the "Amboyna"…"
Mar 7, 2012
Richard William Ineson and allan ideson are now friends
Mar 6, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for Mike Redman
"thanks mike.its a good one ...i wish i knew a bit more ."
Mar 6, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for Richard William Ineson
"thanks for confirming the origins richard.it has been in a case in one of my neibours loft for 50 yrs.the case has an essex label in it .i traced the case on the net 1920s.the last owner put his name on the skin and the date ..1961.but i knew it was…"
Mar 6, 2012
allan ideson left a comment for Jody Stecher
"thanks jody for your input.ime a guitarist .i have good instruments ...this banjo .has a lot of volume .also the neck and fingerboard are a work of art .after all these years the neck is straight .....no truss rod.when i master the beast ill put…"
Mar 5, 2012
Jody Stecher left a comment for allan ideson
"I had a Barnes & Mullins #1 P ("p" for "perfect" sez Dave Wade) that was very much like this banjo. I was pretty sure it was made by Abbott and this confirms it. Now a student has it.  The B&M had some special…"
Mar 5, 2012
Mike Redman left a comment for allan ideson
"Yes, it is an Abbott, I have a 5 string model with the same peg head and inlays.  The name on the side of the neck is Frank Merton ''Orphean'' Glasgow.  As Richard suggests, I believe it is an Abbott Mirabile and a…"
Mar 5, 2012

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At 18:47 on March 5, 2012, Richard William Ineson said…

Yes it looks like an Abbott 'Mirabile' which was one of their top banjos, I've had a few of these over the years and they are really good banjos. Frank Merton and his wife ran a music teaching studio in Glasgow and are mentioned in the B.M.G. in the 30s, they seem to have been well known, in the fretted instrument world in those days.

At 19:04 on March 5, 2012, Mike Redman said…

Yes, it is an Abbott, I have a 5 string model with the same peg head and inlays.  The name on the side of the neck is Frank Merton ''Orphean'' Glasgow.  As Richard suggests, I believe it is an Abbott Mirabile and a great banjo.

 

At 22:09 on March 5, 2012, Jody Stecher said…

I had a Barnes & Mullins #1 P ("p" for "perfect" sez Dave Wade) that was very much like this banjo. I was pretty sure it was made by Abbott and this confirms it. Now a student has it.  The B&M had some special features that I can't tell if this one has or not. The bezel was scalloped and heavy and made of high quality stuff. The pot was 11.5 inches which gave it extra bass and if I remember right the pot was also just a bit deeper than usual. (If ya filled yr banjo with chocolate pudding, this one would hold more).  It had good tone and projection.

At 11:01 on March 7, 2012, David Wade said…

Nearly right Jody, Jack Abbott Snr worked for B&M up to about 1912 when they had a big bust up and Jack Abbott and tweleve craftsman walked out and started up their own business. There was a court case mainly around the "Amboyna" zither-banjo which B&M continued to produce after Abbott left although Abbott claimed the rights to the design and made the same thing in direct competition.

At 14:47 on March 7, 2012, Richard William Ineson said…

The fifth string tunnel, instead of the standard side mounted fifth peg was available for people who wanted a five string banjo that could also be used as a plectrum banjo - the bridge had a little notch on the side and when you played with the plectrum you were supposed to dismount the fifth string and slip it into this notch, to get it out of the way. A lot of makers used this idea including Windsor and B&M.

At 19:34 on March 7, 2012, Mike Moss said…

Hi Allan,

why not play with 5 strings? The 5th string just makes things easier, and 99% of the stuff here is written for the 5-string banjo.

If you need good banjo strings, get a Heavy nylon set from Clifford Essex -- they're cheap and they last forever.

At 11:23 on May 20, 2012, Mike Redman said…

Hi Allan, if you take a look at the 'photo's page, there is a picture of Mr & Mrs Frank Merton of Glasgow with an Abbott banjo the same as ours, well similar as I know yours has the fifth peg in the centre of the peg head of the banjo.

At 8:42 on May 21, 2012, Mike Redman said…

Hi Allan, I have posted some photos of my Abbott banjo for you to look at.

At 19:16 on December 29, 2013, Ian easton said…
Hi,Allen I picked up a banjo today with Frank Merton Glasgow on the heel,I have checked the old photo you put up it is very like the same type of banjo.I picked it up for £20 ,it needs a little work but after your comments it looks like it will be worth it.

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