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Banjo repertoire around 1900 - Schoenberg, anyone?
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I have followed past Discussions on classic-banjo concerning the standard repertoire c.1880-1930, a repertoire that appears to be cheerfully 'light' & 'popular' seemingly without exception, and…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jody Stecher Jul 31.

Chipped finish to rim
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This topic may already have been dealt with, but I can't find it in Discussions.I have a Temlett 5 string zither banjo. Around the rim the abundant Mop decoration is set into a black (or near-black)…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rock Chidley Jul 26.

Abbott tailpiece problem
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I am new to banjo, and to classic banjo, and have recently bought a 'Hawkes & Son' 5-string which I think was probably made by John. G. Abbott, since a very similar instrument is shown at …Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Trevor Boyd Jul 24.

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Jody Stecher replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Banjo repertoire around 1900 - Schoenberg, anyone?
"Conservatory musicians have tended to be snobbish about the banjo, believing it to be "not a real instrument".  That's one reason.  Did the German composers you mention include the finger style five-string banjo in their…"
Jul 31
Trapdoor2 replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Banjo repertoire around 1900 - Schoenberg, anyone?
"Occasionally you find a piece that is influenced by the banjo (I'm thinking Gottshalk)...but usually they're not using a banjo at all. Sometimes you get a banjo part thrown in...but not a full/extended solo. I just…"
Jul 31
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Banjo repertoire around 1900 - Schoenberg, anyone?

I have followed past Discussions on classic-banjo concerning the standard repertoire c.1880-1930, a repertoire that appears to be cheerfully 'light' & 'popular' seemingly without exception, and (exclusively?) written by player-composers. My present question, however, is whether anyone here knows of banjo music - either solo or embedded within an ensemble - written by mainstream 'classical' composers of that period. I've trawled net resources and come up with almost nothing - certainly no…See More
Jul 31
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
Jul 26
nick langton replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"I have repaired similar damage on the Temlett banjo with a black epoxy putty called Milliput which can be smoothed with water and sanded/ filed/ polished when set- has also been useful for small chips/ splits in ebony fingerboards."
Jul 26
Trapdoor2 replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"Yes, very CA and ebony dust is indeed commonly used for such repairs. Also to fill the 'divots' in the fingerboard from playing wear. See Frank Ford's repair article...techniques of which can be applied to your splits/cracks,…"
Jul 24
Trevor Boyd replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Abbott tailpiece problem
"Hello Rock.  The bolts on mine look more or less horizontal.  Not easy to photograph but I have had a go - I hope this helps. Trevor"
Jul 24
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Abbott tailpiece problem
"Thanks, Trevor, for uploading the picture. That really seems to clinch it, then - bent it was. So next time I restring I'll straighten it, if only enough to lift the centre off the vellum. One thing that I didn't mention before, that…"
Jul 24
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Abbott tailpiece problem
Jul 24
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"Many thanks for Trapdoor2's reply. That is really very persuasive . . . I'll ransack my box of old piano key ebonies and see what I can achieve on some scrap hardwood, and then, if all goes well, move on to the Temlett. Incidentally,…"
Jul 24
Trevor Boyd replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Abbott tailpiece problem
"I have a similar Hawkes/Abbott banjo.  This is what my tailpiece looks like:"
Jul 24
Trapdoor2 replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"I'm willing to bet this is "mastic" (or sometimes called "black mastic", which was very commonly used for inlay. Trouble is, just about everybody had their own recipe for it. One of the more common one is to simply mix very…"
Jul 24
Jody Stecher replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
" Ebony has a grain. This veneer is probably  something else."
Jul 24
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"Here are three photos showing the damage to the 'veneer', if such it be. Judging from images on several eBay ads, this kind of chipping damage is all too common on banjos c. 1900, so I'm hoping that others before me have found and can…"
Jul 24
Rock Chidley replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"Thanks for your quick reply. I think that I may need to upload a close-up photo or two . . . but indeed, it could just be paint.  If it is, it's built up of several coats, finally burnished very smooth so that it resembles a…"
Jul 23
Jody Stecher replied to Rock Chidley's discussion Chipped finish to rim
"I had a similar Temlett zither-banjo. I remember the black finish as being paint. But it's been over 10 years since I've seen the banjo so my memory may be flawed. It may have been black stained wood which had then been varnished.…"
Jul 23

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