Ok, was listening to the Skirtlifters on the way to work this morning and "Tickle Toes" caught my ear. Sounds like it would be fun to play.

Anyone out there with the dots?

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First we have Harald Pinter composing banjo music, and now William Penn?  He was the founder of the Pennsylvania colony and a total lookalike for the guy on the Quaker Oats cylinder box. Who next? Colonel Sanders?  Bernie Sanders?   Winnie The Pooh? (he lived under the name of Sanders, you know).

Anyway, sorry Marc I don't have the dots. You'd be very welcome to them if I did.

Here's a nice early recording.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5gJbOZNMs4

Steve.

Hi Marc, I've located a piano score, unless someone has a banjo arrangement already, I'll give it a try...Steve.

Ok, now I'm stumped. The youtube version is not the same tune. The Skirtlifter's tune isn't even an arrangement of "Tickle Toes" as played in 1914 (and written by Penn)...unless, of course, the piano arrangement is different than the cylinder recording.

I think I saw that in my searching of the net yesterday that there is a "one-step" and a "two-step" version of this piece. I now note that the Skirtlifter's tune is fully titled: "Tickle Toes - A Toe Tickler".

More research required!


The score that I found is the same as the recording, having said that, it still might have possibilities...Steve.
Trapdoor2 said:

Ok, now I'm stumped. The youtube version is not the same tune. The Skirtlifter's tune isn't even an arrangement of "Tickle Toes" as played in 1914 (and written by Penn)...unless, of course, the piano arrangement is different than the cylinder recording.

I think I saw that in my searching of the net yesterday that there is a "one-step" and a "two-step" version of this piece. I now note that the Skirtlifter's tune is fully titled: "Tickle Toes - A Toe Tickler".

More research required!

Any chance that the Skirtlfters recording is a cassette and the labeling of sides A and B got reversed? That has happened often with cassettes and LPs. A danger of two faced media!  Sometimes with digital media the tracks are mislabeled. So that's another possibility.

Trapdoor2 said:

Ok, now I'm stumped. The youtube version is not the same tune. The Skirtlifter's tune isn't even an arrangement of "Tickle Toes" as played in 1914 (and written by Penn)...unless, of course, the piano arrangement is different than the cylinder recording.

I think I saw that in my searching of the net yesterday that there is a "one-step" and a "two-step" version of this piece. I now note that the Skirtlifter's tune is fully titled: "Tickle Toes - A Toe Tickler".

More research required!

Just write Clarke and ask him if he has a banjo arrangement and what is up with the titles.  He likely knows.

ABF members might see if this is in the library holdings-- it is your club, use it!

"'Tickle Toes' - Jacques" does indeed show up in the ABF library.

I will send for a copy. However, I do not feel comfortable with posting music I've gotten from the ABF on the website here; even my TAB of it (because I won't post their dots without permission). If someone else has a copy (or I have a non-ABF copy), fair game.

It seems rude to talk about a set of dots that I cannot share...so I don't typically do that. I will always ask here first and if there are no dots, then I check the ABF and slink away in the night.

Dear Marc,

Turns out I’ve got a copy; complete with rubber-stamped pointing finger (instead of the usual passive-aggressive red pencil underlining.) Hope this is the one you’re looking for, as Mr. Jacques seemed to like to take titles from other pieces, unless he was simply a magnet for coincidence (i.e. “Tickled to Death” being a well-known Charles Hunter tune … or maybe he was just really, really into tickling.)

Of course, in addition to Chas. Hunter, there’s also Parke Hunter, composer of “Pensacola,” et al, and William Hunter, composer of “College Rag” to really confuse us when it comes to hunting banjo tunes. I see Jacques also wrote (or maybe just pilfered) “Royal Tourist,” which, coincidentally, dovetails nicely with all the recent Shirley Spaulding talk.

All warmest of wishes — and I always enjoy your postings; you are a clever and funny writer.

Chris.

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Chris,

Excellent! That looks like the item, indeed. Thank you very much!

I'll have tab out for it as soon as I can. I believe that current copyright law applies to the music but not to the tune title...and thus the same title may re-occur. Just my feeble memory on that though.

Mr. Jacques did get around. I have "Royal Tourist" and it is attributed to Mr. Jacques. I think I also have "Tickled To Death" somewhere around here...but no idea if the copy is attributed to Charles Hunter or P. Jacques. The ABF listing places it squarely in Mr. Jacques' lap.

Mr. Jacques was working from Rhode Island, I wonder if he knew or corresponded with Mr. Jennings (another Rhode Island banjo music composer and publisher)?

Sorry, I thought all enthusiasts of "classic banjo" would want to be a part of an organization that has direct links to Frank B. Converse.  I mean, all the cool banjoists like to belong to the group that can claim Fred Stewart (son of SSS) as a one time (now deceased obviously) active member right?

Since all the cool kids are in the ABF then they can all "request" copies of music.  Then we can discuss the piece freely.

At any rate, Chris took care of us, thanks Chris for being awesome!  And I'll give it a read through too.

AFA the list that is floating around of the ABF library, I've been informed that it is very inaccurate.  It lists many pieces that are not in the library and there are a lot that is not listed that are.  


Trapdoor2 said:

"'Tickle Toes' - Jacques" does indeed show up in the ABF library.

I will send for a copy. However, I do not feel comfortable with posting music I've gotten from the ABF on the website here; even my TAB of it (because I won't post their dots without permission). If someone else has a copy (or I have a non-ABF copy), fair game.

It seems rude to talk about a set of dots that I cannot share...so I don't typically do that. I will always ask here first and if there are no dots, then I check the ABF and slink away in the night.

Certainly, all right-minded banjo folk are already members of the ABF.

Frankly, I see it as insurance, I do not wish to be haunted by the likes of FBC or FVE or even Fred or Lem (not to mention ol' SSS hissef). Jacob Marley ain't got nuthin' on the ghosts of banjo players past!

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