Rag Suggestions for Beginner? - Classic-Banjo2024-03-29T02:12:08Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A128154&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI've been making good progres…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-04-29:2667446:Comment:1291092018-04-29T16:58:58.320Zdavid caronhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/davidcaron
<p>I've been making good progress on the Caliope Rag, hopefully I will sum up the necessary courage to post a a recording. </p>
<p>I've been making good progress on the Caliope Rag, hopefully I will sum up the necessary courage to post a a recording. </p> Maybe I'll have to make it a…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-03-03:2667446:Comment:1282312018-03-03T16:28:00.815ZCyndy Richardsonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/CynthiaRichardson
<p>Maybe I'll have to make it a project to add tunes with "oo" in the titles to the things I can play. :)</p>
<p>I'll take a look soon.</p>
<p>Maybe I'll have to make it a project to add tunes with "oo" in the titles to the things I can play. :)</p>
<p>I'll take a look soon.</p> Hi Cyndy, I've had a skim thr…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-03-01:2667446:Comment:1285402018-03-01T09:26:35.384ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Hi Cyndy, I've had a skim through some of my arrangements and I've had a look at The Timbuctoo March which is described on the score as "A Ragtime Dream" and is an early cake walk. I don't know your level of proficiency, but it might be one for your 'to do' list. It's not too much of a challenge and as with most of my arrangements, I've added the fret numbers and position indicators to the score to help with reading the music. The score and midi are both in the library..Steve.…<br></br> <br></br></p>
<p>Hi Cyndy, I've had a skim through some of my arrangements and I've had a look at The Timbuctoo March which is described on the score as "A Ragtime Dream" and is an early cake walk. I don't know your level of proficiency, but it might be one for your 'to do' list. It's not too much of a challenge and as with most of my arrangements, I've added the fret numbers and position indicators to the score to help with reading the music. The score and midi are both in the library..Steve.<br/> <br/> <cite>Steve Harrison said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment128126"><div><p>Hi Cyndy, No problem, best of luck with Kaloola..Steve.<br/> <br/> <cite>Cynthia Richardson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A128339&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment128339"><div><p>Hi Steve.</p>
<p>I've had such supportive replies here and I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>I just listened to Rag Knots and it's a cool tune. I'd be interested in playing it but before I take you up on that offer, I'd better focus on Kaloola--at least until it's solidly in my head. I'm making progress and working on it is proving to be kind of addictive.</p>
<p>Cyndy </p>
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I'm going to start…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-28:2667446:Comment:1282092018-02-28T22:00:38.208ZCyndy Richardsonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/CynthiaRichardson
<p>Hi David.</p>
<p>I'm going to start a new message thread so that others will see your question and offer their own insights.</p>
<p>Cyndy</p>
<p>Hi David.</p>
<p>I'm going to start a new message thread so that others will see your question and offer their own insights.</p>
<p>Cyndy</p> Question for you. As a fello…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-28:2667446:Comment:1284072018-02-28T20:28:20.636Zdavid caronhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/davidcaron
<p>Question for you. As a fellow beginner, did you learn to read sheet music? How did you go about learning? What are some beginner songs that you would suggest?</p>
<p>Question for you. As a fellow beginner, did you learn to read sheet music? How did you go about learning? What are some beginner songs that you would suggest?</p> Hi Cyndy, No problem, best of…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-11:2667446:Comment:1281262018-02-11T22:12:22.826ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Hi Cyndy, No problem, best of luck with Kaloola..Steve.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Cynthia Richardson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A128339&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment128339"><div><p>Hi Steve.</p>
<p>I've had such supportive replies here and I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>I just listened to Rag Knots and it's a cool tune. I'd be interested in playing it but before I take you up on…</p>
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<p>Hi Cyndy, No problem, best of luck with Kaloola..Steve.<br/> <br/> <cite>Cynthia Richardson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A128339&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment128339"><div><p>Hi Steve.</p>
<p>I've had such supportive replies here and I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>I just listened to Rag Knots and it's a cool tune. I'd be interested in playing it but before I take you up on that offer, I'd better focus on Kaloola--at least until it's solidly in my head. I'm making progress and working on it is proving to be kind of addictive.</p>
<p>Cyndy </p>
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</blockquote> Hi Steve.
I've had such suppo…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-11:2667446:Comment:1283392018-02-11T18:07:39.940ZCyndy Richardsonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/CynthiaRichardson
<p>Hi Steve.</p>
<p>I've had such supportive replies here and I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>I just listened to Rag Knots and it's a cool tune. I'd be interested in playing it but before I take you up on that offer, I'd better focus on Kaloola--at least until it's solidly in my head. I'm making progress and working on it is proving to be kind of addictive.</p>
<p>Cyndy </p>
<p>Hi Steve.</p>
<p>I've had such supportive replies here and I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>I just listened to Rag Knots and it's a cool tune. I'd be interested in playing it but before I take you up on that offer, I'd better focus on Kaloola--at least until it's solidly in my head. I'm making progress and working on it is proving to be kind of addictive.</p>
<p>Cyndy </p> Hi Cynthia, I began working o…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-11:2667446:Comment:1283362018-02-11T09:57:43.379ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Hi Cynthia, I began working on an arrangement for an early cake walk called Rag-Knots a time back. I put it on the back burner as other tunes took the top of the list. It's an early example of cakewalk, not a full rag, but does have plenty of syncopation and isn't too much of a challenge to play. You can listen to it on YouTube on the Dorian Henry site. Let me know if it's of interest and I'll work out a not too hard arrangement for you....Steve. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Cynthia Richardson…</cite></p>
<p>Hi Cynthia, I began working on an arrangement for an early cake walk called Rag-Knots a time back. I put it on the back burner as other tunes took the top of the list. It's an early example of cakewalk, not a full rag, but does have plenty of syncopation and isn't too much of a challenge to play. You can listen to it on YouTube on the Dorian Henry site. Let me know if it's of interest and I'll work out a not too hard arrangement for you....Steve. <br/> <br/> <cite>Cynthia Richardson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/rag-suggestions-for-beginner#2667446Comment128246"><div><p>Definitely helpful!</p>
<p>The comment about playing out of chord positions provides useful context and you're right. There's really no difference between playing off a B or a B-flat or whatever -- once it's learned. Reading it is another story. :)</p>
<p>I spent some time working on Kaloola this afternoon and it felt just right. Not too hard to read with a nice balance of phrases that aren't too hard (so immediately satisfying) and phrases that will take some time (which are satisfying in a different way).</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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</blockquote> Definitely helpful!
The comme…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-11:2667446:Comment:1282462018-02-11T03:35:14.270ZCyndy Richardsonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/CynthiaRichardson
<p>Definitely helpful!</p>
<p>The comment about playing out of chord positions provides useful context and you're right. There's really no difference between playing off a B or a B-flat or whatever -- once it's learned. Reading it is another story. :)</p>
<p>I spent some time working on Kaloola this afternoon and it felt just right. Not too hard to read with a nice balance of phrases that aren't too hard (so immediately satisfying) and phrases that will take some time (which are satisfying in a…</p>
<p>Definitely helpful!</p>
<p>The comment about playing out of chord positions provides useful context and you're right. There's really no difference between playing off a B or a B-flat or whatever -- once it's learned. Reading it is another story. :)</p>
<p>I spent some time working on Kaloola this afternoon and it felt just right. Not too hard to read with a nice balance of phrases that aren't too hard (so immediately satisfying) and phrases that will take some time (which are satisfying in a different way).</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p> Random thoughts; maybe helpfu…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2018-02-11:2667446:Comment:1281192018-02-11T00:22:16.697ZJody Stecherhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/JodyStecher
<p>Random thoughts; maybe helpful? :</p>
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<p>Sometimes banjo solos in the flat keys are no harder to play than natural keys. And ragtime always is shifting keys and chords anyway so you are bound to encounter a bunch of different frets no matter what the key signature may be. Another thought: three flats is sometimes indicative of the key E flat major but sometimes it just means C minor and that is often easier on the banjo the C major. Keynotes Rag starts out in C minor and the first…</p>
<p>Random thoughts; maybe helpful? :</p>
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<p>Sometimes banjo solos in the flat keys are no harder to play than natural keys. And ragtime always is shifting keys and chords anyway so you are bound to encounter a bunch of different frets no matter what the key signature may be. Another thought: three flats is sometimes indicative of the key E flat major but sometimes it just means C minor and that is often easier on the banjo the C major. Keynotes Rag starts out in C minor and the first part is almost entirely played from chord positions so there is very little work for the left hand. But then it gets tricky in the next part!</p>
<p>I agree with Joel that Kaloola is very nice and not too scary. And I agree with Marc about Calliope Rag being lovely music and not too hard to play. It's also easy to remember. It's a James Scott composition and there are several videos on this website of it being played. Don't let the 1 flat in the key signature scare you. "B flat" takes twice as long to say as "B natural" but it no harder to play the third string at the third fret than to play it at the fourth. And "B natural" takes even longer to say but it's not harder than B flat either.</p>