Cum-Bac Rag (1911)...Charles L. Johnson - Classic-Banjo2024-03-28T12:29:13Zhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A123816&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Marc, I've converted t…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-12:2667446:Comment:1239112017-08-12T22:45:00.623ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Thanks Marc, I've converted them into TIFF format and sent them to Ian to add to the file. Fingering is very subjective and down to personal preferences, I tend to use a mix of classic and melodic styles on my scores but there are always other ways of doing things. I'll add the D# in due course and send Ian the amended file...Steve. <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:…</cite></p>
<p>Thanks Marc, I've converted them into TIFF format and sent them to Ian to add to the file. Fingering is very subjective and down to personal preferences, I tend to use a mix of classic and melodic styles on my scores but there are always other ways of doing things. I'll add the D# in due course and send Ian the amended file...Steve. <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment123908"><div><p>Ok, well that was fun! I've listened to the Trinkaus version enough now that I'm not sure if that first bar is a mistake after all...just different. IOW, it works on its own.</p>
<p>Steve, I found one mistake in your dots: measures 7 and 15, the D should be D#. You've got it marked as 4B (as is proper) but missing a sharp.</p>
<p>I did make a very few changes in your fingering, mostly I tend to use the 5th string a little more than you do. An example: measures 8 and 16.</p>
<p>See attached for my Tab of both.</p>
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</blockquote> Poop. I forgot to add the MID…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-12:2667446:Comment:1237262017-08-12T18:46:15.600ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Poop. I forgot to add the MIDI file for the Trinkaus version...here it is.</p>
<p>Poop. I forgot to add the MIDI file for the Trinkaus version...here it is.</p> Ok, well that was fun! I've l…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-12:2667446:Comment:1239082017-08-12T18:43:05.661ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Ok, well that was fun! I've listened to the Trinkaus version enough now that I'm not sure if that first bar is a mistake after all...just different. IOW, it works on its own.</p>
<p>Steve, I found one mistake in your dots: measures 7 and 15, the D should be D#. You've got it marked as 4B (as is proper) but missing a sharp.</p>
<p>I did make a very few changes in your fingering, mostly I tend to use the 5th string a little more than you do. An example: measures 8 and 16.</p>
<p>See attached…</p>
<p>Ok, well that was fun! I've listened to the Trinkaus version enough now that I'm not sure if that first bar is a mistake after all...just different. IOW, it works on its own.</p>
<p>Steve, I found one mistake in your dots: measures 7 and 15, the D should be D#. You've got it marked as 4B (as is proper) but missing a sharp.</p>
<p>I did make a very few changes in your fingering, mostly I tend to use the 5th string a little more than you do. An example: measures 8 and 16.</p>
<p>See attached for my Tab of both.</p> OK, I have Steve's arrangemen…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-09:2667446:Comment:1235962017-08-09T02:32:22.727ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>OK, I have Steve's arrangement keyed in, just needs a little cleanup. I've started the Trinkaus arrangement and right off the bat it has a mistake. First note/chord should be dotted quaver followed by a semiquaver. Makes the beginning stumble just a bit. There's a couple of rhythmic differences in other syncopations as well...they sound a bit odd in comparison but work on their own.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the Trinkaus arrangement is a bit simpler...but it moves into the higher registers early on…</p>
<p>OK, I have Steve's arrangement keyed in, just needs a little cleanup. I've started the Trinkaus arrangement and right off the bat it has a mistake. First note/chord should be dotted quaver followed by a semiquaver. Makes the beginning stumble just a bit. There's a couple of rhythmic differences in other syncopations as well...they sound a bit odd in comparison but work on their own.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the Trinkaus arrangement is a bit simpler...but it moves into the higher registers early on (16 fret, so far). The doubled note 'walk up' works as I had guessed. Just a different way of getting there!</p>
<p>I'll try to get it done soon and post TAB for both.</p> Yah, I think they're close en…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-08:2667446:Comment:1235952017-08-08T22:50:27.150ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Yah, I think they're close enough that I can get your arrangement finished and then do some simple mods to get the Trinkaus arrangement. I would prefer the octave walk as it is closer to the piano score...but we'll see!</p>
<p>Yah, I think they're close enough that I can get your arrangement finished and then do some simple mods to get the Trinkaus arrangement. I would prefer the octave walk as it is closer to the piano score...but we'll see!</p> Hi Marc, you could mix and ma…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-08:2667446:Comment:1239012017-08-08T21:01:30.516ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Hi Marc, you could mix and match and use the doubling notes on the repeat bars...Steve.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A123713&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment123594"><div><p>Well, that's interesting! "Tune to D when playing with Club"...tune aDAC#E...which is simply Capo 2 these days.</p>
<p>Doubling the "walk up" melody notes is a good…</p>
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<p>Hi Marc, you could mix and match and use the doubling notes on the repeat bars...Steve.<br/> <br/> <cite>Trapdoor2 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A123713&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment123594"><div><p>Well, that's interesting! "Tune to D when playing with Club"...tune aDAC#E...which is simply Capo 2 these days.</p>
<p>Doubling the "walk up" melody notes is a good method. I'll have to hear and compare both versions... <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment123816"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Here is how Trinkaus handled it.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://archive.org/stream/WhitneyWarnerMandolinCollectionNo12/Whitney_Warner_Mandolin_Collection_no_12#page/n31/mode/1up" target="_blank">https://archive.org/stream/WhitneyWarnerMandolinCollectionNo12/Whit...</a></p>
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</blockquote> I notice that Banjo players l…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-08:2667446:Comment:1237132017-08-08T17:33:56.682ZRémihttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Remi
<p>I notice that Banjo players like very much the rags of Charles L Johnson ! That's s cool, you're right Steve his rags are surely all good; but I don't know much his music, I just arranged Dill Pickels, but probably I will do Cum Bac after, or Blue Goose that I think you also arranged in collaboration with Thereallyniceman ! </p>
<p>I notice that Banjo players like very much the rags of Charles L Johnson ! That's s cool, you're right Steve his rags are surely all good; but I don't know much his music, I just arranged Dill Pickels, but probably I will do Cum Bac after, or Blue Goose that I think you also arranged in collaboration with Thereallyniceman ! </p> Well, that's interesting! "Tu…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-08:2667446:Comment:1235942017-08-08T14:12:22.848ZTrapdoor2https://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Trapdoor2
<p>Well, that's interesting! "Tune to D when playing with Club"...tune aDAC#E...which is simply Capo 2 these days.</p>
<p>Doubling the "walk up" melody notes is a good method. I'll have to hear and compare both versions... <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment123816"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Here is how Trinkaus handled it.…</p>
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<p>Well, that's interesting! "Tune to D when playing with Club"...tune aDAC#E...which is simply Capo 2 these days.</p>
<p>Doubling the "walk up" melody notes is a good method. I'll have to hear and compare both versions... <br/> <br/> <cite>Joel Hooks said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?xg_source=activity#2667446Comment123816"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Here is how Trinkaus handled it.</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/stream/WhitneyWarnerMandolinCollectionNo12/Whitney_Warner_Mandolin_Collection_no_12#page/n31/mode/1up" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://archive.org/stream/WhitneyWarnerMandolinCollectionNo12/Whit...</a></p>
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</blockquote> Thanks Remi, I don't think Ch…tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-08:2667446:Comment:1235932017-08-08T09:41:50.894ZSteve Harrisonhttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/SteveHarrison
<p>Thanks Remi, I don't think Charles Johnson ever wrote a bad piece of music. I've got three more Johnson arrangements completed which I'll ask Ian to post in due course...Steve.</p>
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<p>Thanks Remi, I don't think Charles Johnson ever wrote a bad piece of music. I've got three more Johnson arrangements completed which I'll ask Ian to post in due course...Steve.</p>
<p><cite>Remi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/cum-bac-rag-1911-charles-l-johnson?commentId=2667446%3AComment%3A123710&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2667446Comment123710"><div><p>Wonderful Rag !</p>
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</blockquote> Wonderful Rag !tag:classic-banjo.ning.com,2017-08-07:2667446:Comment:1237102017-08-07T22:34:08.762ZRémihttps://classic-banjo.ning.com/profile/Remi
<p>Wonderful Rag !</p>
<p>Wonderful Rag !</p>